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#7060 by SDavis22
Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:35 am
ok... "to each his own"

#7420 by johnnya
Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:56 pm
rock n roll was the era that like anything else was the firstfruit of its kind, like the 1st one to go to the moon or 1st one to do this or that, but indeed elvis and holly, bill haley and all those guys during the 50's were a hell of entertainers and the beginning of what is today.

#7422 by mistermikev
Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:05 pm
how many friggin times do I have to say it... it was al gore.

seriously, I don't think this question has an anwer. it's like all the rest... who was the first grunge act, who started rap, where did the blues come from. Many ppul have dif defs of what r&r is, and it has changed so much over the years... I think like anything else in music it was a subtle morph that picked up speed exponentially. I'm pretty sure everyone mentioned on this thread had their little part in it. so my answer is this:
who created rock and roll: the humans. More specifically the ones performing music somewhere around 1950 and on.

#7469 by TFROCKED
Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:05 pm
most people say it waz elvis ...but elvis had alot of funk in is music..when it comes to rock i'd have to say it waz the beatles then led and so on
#7572 by fisherman bob
Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:18 am
There's no doubt in my mind that Muddy Waters was the absolute king of rock and roll. Members of the Rolling Stones visited Chicago (they got their name from a Muddy Waters tune) to find out all they could about Muddy Waters. It wasn't just his music that inspired them, but his stage presence, his stage antics, and most of all his lifestyle. Muddy had a rocker's lifestyle before there was any rockers. After their visit to Chicago Mick Jagger and company found out how a rock star should live. Eric Clapton idolized Muddy as well as many other future rock stars. Muddy was "rocking" long before anybody ever heard of Elvis. Muddy Waters was simply the biggest influence to music in the last fifty plus years. Later...fisherman bob

#7586 by mistermikev
Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:46 am
a horse hath never been more dead.

#7623 by Irminsul
Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:36 pm
MrMikeV wrote:a horse hath never been more dead.


Let's just whip the last sun-leathered shards off that poor carcass, shall we? LOL

#7628 by mistermikev
Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:25 pm
yeah i hear ya. one of those questions I think everyone has a diff answer for and frankly no one is any closer than anyone else.

#7653 by Vocals & Bass
Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:09 am
I know there will always be different opinions on who first played Rock & Roll. Well, When I watch an old video of this artist. When I hear such a great vocalist. I will be honest in my personal opinion, And Im not the only one by far who feels the same. Because the majority vote will always be, At least in our time and maybe forever. The King Is: ELVIS AARON PRESLEY. This gentleman came from nothing, And made it to the top. And he had it all. The Voice, Looks, Stage Presence, The Fans, etc. The King Is ELVIS.

#7660 by mistermikev
Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:41 am
twas what my first post would've pointed to.
ppul often say it was the fact that he stole music from black ppul that made him great.. I say that is true to some extent... but listen to the way he sang ppul. fing phenominal singer. dificult vibrato to replicate. so much feeling. great tone. not just a rip off. the guy was perhaps one of the best singers ever. yes he was firing on all cylinders... had the dance moves, had the look, had the sound. take away the look and the moves and he still would've been huge. sang with feeling, almost sounds like he's gonna cry at points.
Huge e fan. used to imitate the guy when I was 5. had a 45 of him that I wore out. If you say he was great cause he was wwhite doing black music you are silly. it may be true that that was one of the things that helped him, but the biggest thing was his awesome voice. No one sounded like elvis, not little richard, not jllewis, not the beatles, not anyone.
#7733 by fisherman bob
Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:05 am
Yeah Elvis was great, a truly phenomenal performer, but I believe he was a pretty miserable king. He couldn't do anything his last few years without being pumped full of drugs. He would have been much happier if he had been a less famous, perhaps regional performer. He was perhaps the first huge rock and roll star, but king? Maybe Mick Jagger should be crowned king, or Paul McCartney. Whoever you might think was king of rock and roll owes everything to one Muddy Waters who lived his entire life as king of everyone around him, including those early British rockers who studied him and learned how it was done.

#7744 by mistermikev
Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:33 pm
love muddy waters but to say he created r&r or had anything to do with the beatles sound demonstrates a lack of musical understanding... and Imean that with all due respect and no offence. I'm sure he influenced them, but they took it to the moon comparably(and I'm not a big beatles fan). and they modulated keys. the basic chords are there but there are only 7 chord families. that means you really only hve 7 choices in any one key... and since most rock is in one key...
the 145 fits in blues, rock, country, gospel, folk... u name it. you might as well give credit to bethoven cause just like anyone else 'they were inspired by someone who came before them'. you might as well say hendrix ripped off muddy... I guess he did in the sense that yeah he used the sm 7 chord families.
evlis was a druggie allright... livin that r&r lifestyle you mentioned. that doesn't negate his earlier career. I'm just as uncomfortable labeling anyone as king... I think there were a lot of ppul who deserve credit. Mick jaeger included... but for the record he doesn't have the singing ability elvis's pinky tip had. Paul M, now there's a singer... and a bass player to boot, and a song writer, and a performer. still not on par with elvis.
don't even get me started on british rock... clapton sucks!
#7771 by fisherman bob
Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:33 am
If you ever did see Muddy you'd understand why I think he's the king. Muddy led directly to the early rock and roll greats, including Elvis. I agree with you on Clapton, he's not particularly great. Later...

#7775 by mistermikev
Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:19 am
I wouldn't neccesarily rule him out as the king of blues for his time... I only dispute the idea that his influence on presley would give him any credit for presleys brand of r&r. AFA didn't see muddy... so many great musicians I haven't seen but then, on the other hand, I have so many left to see! wish I could have seen elvis, led zep, kiss, beatles, many more too.

#7785 by Guitarzan6000
Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:06 pm
It's a well known fact that ALL "Rock-n-Roll" had it's birth from the "Blues", all of those original Blues players started it, every Rock band has either copied it, or was influenced by it whether you want to admit it or not....There IS NO "KING" of Rock-n-Roll....Rock-n-Roll is an "attitude".....LONG LIVE THE KING!!!!!!!

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