Well first off... frankly, theres not f#$%ing thing that they can do about it.
The genie has been out of the botle for quite awhile now. There is no way to stop peer-to-peer file sharing, short of shutting of the world wide web.
The internet youth is still way ahead of the suits on a technological intelligence level. I've known plenty of guys that would even make irminsul
seem mentally challenged by comparison. ...and for anyone that pays attention to this forum, it should be pretty clear that irninsul is extremely intelligent.
The games been over for quite awhile. The suits lost.
Just make your money from touring and merchandise, and enjoy what you do. Get what you can from royalties, be happy.
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As a music teacher, I depend on file-sharing when a student wants to learn something...used to be I'd go to friends & ask them for a copy on cassette...now I go o/l & it's easier & faster. Also, as I understand the copyright laws, it is permissible to use unpaid-for copies to teach, & so I make copies for my students.
How will these new lines drawn in the sand affect me?
I've heard it said that it won't, but if there are no sites to d/l the songs, & they outlaw file-sharing, it will affect me, & in a negative way.
How will these new lines drawn in the sand affect me?
I've heard it said that it won't, but if there are no sites to d/l the songs, & they outlaw file-sharing, it will affect me, & in a negative way.
for the most part... no one is getting sued for downloading...
just uploading.
no, they're not shutting it down cause most/all of the sites are hosted overseas where there are no copyright laws. None the less it's still illegal for us citz to download OR upload.
I read an article the other day about a raid the FBI did on the RIAA...
they found non-licensed software on 50% of the workstations there. bigots.
There is a giant lawsuit going on right now about extortion attempts made by said RIAA on ppul illegally uploading. I hope they get what's comin'.
They got the swat team in new york to do a raid on a cpl of dj's selling mixed cds. (just what our tax dollars need to pay for...)
The RIAA has successfully had illegal file sharing classified similarly to controlled substance manufacturing in california.
I think downloading is wrong... slightly more wrong than not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. As a musician and software developer I def see the need to maintain copyrights...
BUT,
as far as feeling bad that BMG doesn't have the same capacity to rip off artists that they used to... they will get no sympathy here.
AFA artists who go after their own fans... (metallica)... they will pay their own price for their own lack of loyalty towards the ppul who pad their pockets.
just uploading.
no, they're not shutting it down cause most/all of the sites are hosted overseas where there are no copyright laws. None the less it's still illegal for us citz to download OR upload.
I read an article the other day about a raid the FBI did on the RIAA...
they found non-licensed software on 50% of the workstations there. bigots.
There is a giant lawsuit going on right now about extortion attempts made by said RIAA on ppul illegally uploading. I hope they get what's comin'.
They got the swat team in new york to do a raid on a cpl of dj's selling mixed cds. (just what our tax dollars need to pay for...)
The RIAA has successfully had illegal file sharing classified similarly to controlled substance manufacturing in california.
I think downloading is wrong... slightly more wrong than not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. As a musician and software developer I def see the need to maintain copyrights...
BUT,
as far as feeling bad that BMG doesn't have the same capacity to rip off artists that they used to... they will get no sympathy here.
AFA artists who go after their own fans... (metallica)... they will pay their own price for their own lack of loyalty towards the ppul who pad their pockets.
http://www.myspace.com/mrmikevhisonepieceorchestra
Here we go again...To start with here's a link to an article I've been spreading around for several years since the RIAA started mouthing off about downloading. Janis Ian's website features the Internet Debacle, one of the best articles I've seen on this subject.
She found that after putting a song online for free download, her sales increased dramatically across the board. Same for authors uploading books to the Baen Library.
I won't go into the details here, read the two articles, they both say it much better than I can and I won't have to sit here typing for the next 20 minutes.
Just a couple of points though.
RIAA...is not protecting the artists, as they claim, they're protecting their own pocketbooks. If they were protecting the artists interests, the artists would be making more than 75 cents per CD that sells for over $15. The RIAA has been rapiing recording artists for years. Ditto for the record companies.
Metallica.. I don't listen to metal, never was interested in it, and the first time I heard Metallica I hated the band. Thought they sucked out loud and weren't even decent for a metal band...and I will give metal bands credit if they happen to be good...Scorpions, Malmsteen, Judas Priest, Ozzy's band (although I think Ozzy himself is a jerk) and so on. I don't particularly like the genre, but if the musicians are good, I don't care what they play, they're still good musicians. Malmsteen is a teriffic guitarist, although I don't listen to his stuff often at all, it's just not my cup of tea.
Then I found out Metallica was trying to sue individuals who had never downloaded their music...I got a PM from a lady one night, she was scared. She had just received a subpoena, Metallica was trying to sue her for downloading their music. She had only heard the band once, hated it and didn't want to ever hear it again, much less download it. She never had or will own any Metallica, downloaded or not. They were suing people who were Napster members, who cares if they actually downloaded Metallica songs or not...
I'm not into downloading myself, I only have about 30 songs or so, things I can't find on CD, needed to learn for bands, or just wanted one song and didn't want to pay $15-17 for a CD for the one song. Crackerbox Palace and When We Was Fab by George Harrison are good examples. Raindance by the Guess Who is another one, I've been looking for it on album for years, never have seen it. Ran across it one night and downloaded it. If I could find it, I'd still buy the album.
Lots of people download an entire CD then go out and buy the thing for the liner notes and artwork. Many find a song they like and start buying the artist's entore catalog. Some also buy the CD for better sound quality, mp3 is usually decent, but not CD quality.
If I manage to get into a situation where I can do some recording I think is suitable for public release, you can bet I'll have a song or two posted online for download, it's been proven to be good advertising and exposure.
She found that after putting a song online for free download, her sales increased dramatically across the board. Same for authors uploading books to the Baen Library.
I won't go into the details here, read the two articles, they both say it much better than I can and I won't have to sit here typing for the next 20 minutes.
Just a couple of points though.
RIAA...is not protecting the artists, as they claim, they're protecting their own pocketbooks. If they were protecting the artists interests, the artists would be making more than 75 cents per CD that sells for over $15. The RIAA has been rapiing recording artists for years. Ditto for the record companies.
Metallica.. I don't listen to metal, never was interested in it, and the first time I heard Metallica I hated the band. Thought they sucked out loud and weren't even decent for a metal band...and I will give metal bands credit if they happen to be good...Scorpions, Malmsteen, Judas Priest, Ozzy's band (although I think Ozzy himself is a jerk) and so on. I don't particularly like the genre, but if the musicians are good, I don't care what they play, they're still good musicians. Malmsteen is a teriffic guitarist, although I don't listen to his stuff often at all, it's just not my cup of tea.
Then I found out Metallica was trying to sue individuals who had never downloaded their music...I got a PM from a lady one night, she was scared. She had just received a subpoena, Metallica was trying to sue her for downloading their music. She had only heard the band once, hated it and didn't want to ever hear it again, much less download it. She never had or will own any Metallica, downloaded or not. They were suing people who were Napster members, who cares if they actually downloaded Metallica songs or not...
I'm not into downloading myself, I only have about 30 songs or so, things I can't find on CD, needed to learn for bands, or just wanted one song and didn't want to pay $15-17 for a CD for the one song. Crackerbox Palace and When We Was Fab by George Harrison are good examples. Raindance by the Guess Who is another one, I've been looking for it on album for years, never have seen it. Ran across it one night and downloaded it. If I could find it, I'd still buy the album.
Lots of people download an entire CD then go out and buy the thing for the liner notes and artwork. Many find a song they like and start buying the artist's entore catalog. Some also buy the CD for better sound quality, mp3 is usually decent, but not CD quality.
If I manage to get into a situation where I can do some recording I think is suitable for public release, you can bet I'll have a song or two posted online for download, it's been proven to be good advertising and exposure.
File sharing is legal for teaching purposes...passing copies of music to other teachers & students is perfectly legal. I've read the copyright laws.
Let 'em come for me for downloading anything I damned well please. I am covered by the laws as they are written.
I think that the purposes I use this for SHOULD indeed remain legal, & I offer no apologies for it.
I do not ever download music to make "mix tapes" & such silly things. I should be able to get teaching materials like this for free. I don't even do it often, unless a student wants/needs to learn something particular, that I think is in his realm of understanding, & neither I nor my circle of friends has it.
Ppl who steal the music should be fined, esp when they sell thier ill-gotten stuff on compilation CD's at the truck stop, like I've seen so often, or the bootleg CD's & such. I do think that the artists/composers should be protected from this theft.
Yes, there are lines that should never be crossed. But RIAA has its own agenda, & it has NOTHING to do with protecting the interests of the artist.
I defy anyone to call me a thief for using anyone's material as a teaching tool. I write out my own tabs for my students instead of buying the sheet music, more often than not. I look up tabs & notations for songs I'm unfamiliar with. I look up the songs themselves to hear what they should sound like. I make copies to give to my students so they may know what they are reaching for. That's what a music teacher does. They don't like it - tough beans!
Let 'em come for me for downloading anything I damned well please. I am covered by the laws as they are written.
I think that the purposes I use this for SHOULD indeed remain legal, & I offer no apologies for it.
I do not ever download music to make "mix tapes" & such silly things. I should be able to get teaching materials like this for free. I don't even do it often, unless a student wants/needs to learn something particular, that I think is in his realm of understanding, & neither I nor my circle of friends has it.
Ppl who steal the music should be fined, esp when they sell thier ill-gotten stuff on compilation CD's at the truck stop, like I've seen so often, or the bootleg CD's & such. I do think that the artists/composers should be protected from this theft.
Yes, there are lines that should never be crossed. But RIAA has its own agenda, & it has NOTHING to do with protecting the interests of the artist.
I defy anyone to call me a thief for using anyone's material as a teaching tool. I write out my own tabs for my students instead of buying the sheet music, more often than not. I look up tabs & notations for songs I'm unfamiliar with. I look up the songs themselves to hear what they should sound like. I make copies to give to my students so they may know what they are reaching for. That's what a music teacher does. They don't like it - tough beans!
"Janis Ian's website features the Internet Debacle, one of the best articles I've seen on this subject. "
I love janis ian... breaking silence was awesome. I'll def check out that link.
"File sharing is legal for teaching purposes...passing copies of music to other teachers & students is perfectly legal."
interesting story: I used to teach at a store back home for quite a few years... and the cherry lane ppul used to come in now and then... they said that when I listened to Jimi Hendrix and transcribed his work I was actually breaking copy-write law... because they had exclusive rights to the transcription of his work, and by profiting from it I was actually breaking the law. I'm no lawyer... but their conviction half convinced me they were right.
bottom line: the golden rule = he who has the cash makes the rules.
riaa has gotten so bloated with power that they can get a new york swatt team to take down two dj's... I gaurantee they could ruin your life just taking you to court and losing.
my point: something has to be done.
LATEST NEWS: riaa had apparently falsified emails from "corn farmers" trying to make the point that movie piracy is destroying corn sales (ppul don't go to the movies and buy popcorn).
I DID NOT MAKE THIS UP.
I love janis ian... breaking silence was awesome. I'll def check out that link.
"File sharing is legal for teaching purposes...passing copies of music to other teachers & students is perfectly legal."
interesting story: I used to teach at a store back home for quite a few years... and the cherry lane ppul used to come in now and then... they said that when I listened to Jimi Hendrix and transcribed his work I was actually breaking copy-write law... because they had exclusive rights to the transcription of his work, and by profiting from it I was actually breaking the law. I'm no lawyer... but their conviction half convinced me they were right.
bottom line: the golden rule = he who has the cash makes the rules.
riaa has gotten so bloated with power that they can get a new york swatt team to take down two dj's... I gaurantee they could ruin your life just taking you to court and losing.
my point: something has to be done.
LATEST NEWS: riaa had apparently falsified emails from "corn farmers" trying to make the point that movie piracy is destroying corn sales (ppul don't go to the movies and buy popcorn).
I DID NOT MAKE THIS UP.
http://www.myspace.com/mrmikevhisonepieceorchestra
funny and yet tragic. these folks are like the gestapo.......
http://www.myspace.com/mrmikevhisonepieceorchestra
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