General Music Chat

listen to this Mike.. I have embodied Pat Martino on this one!

https://soundcloud.com/dayne-nobody-iv/ ... tingency-2

are we talking about the same pat martino? this one....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzW8jzICbm8

dane, it's very hard for me to listen to this stuff when the intonation is so off. i don't know if you are doing a poor job tuning that nylon string gtr or if it just suffers from bad intonation.....but are too many places where it's badly, BADLY out of tune. do you not hear it?

you won't melt Planetguy if you listen just once to it.... it is killer!..best yet!..the stars rolled in so quickly on soundcloud from admirers..quickest stars I ever got... the general consensus is it is sheer genious

think you are confusing concert pitch with intonation, just because I do not tune to 440-A , does not mean the intonation is bad sir..like tuning it down, and it keeps the detractors busy wondering how I pulled off such a complex piece of music..at least give me a star on soundcloud for my effort please..thank you very much!

think you are confusing concert pitch with intonation, just because I do not tune to 440-A , does not mean the intonation is bad sir..like tuning it down, and it keeps the detractors busy wondering how I pulled off such a complex piece of music..at least give me a star on soundcloud for my effort please..thank you very much!

nope, that's not what i'm referring to at all. i'm referring to your gtrs being out of tune with each other. and the nylon string being quite out of tune w itself.

look, you either hear that...or you don't.

i suspect that might be a cheaper gtr, yes? now, sometimes in some areas it sounds passable, but then in others, it's fingernails on the blackboard (to my ears). you don't hear that....fine, i get that.

but to my ears...(and my ears aren't even the be-all end-all) it's quite sour at times.

do you know how to check intonation on a gtr Dane? ....the bit where you hit a harmonic at the 12th fret and then compare it to the fretted note there. do that for each string.

they should be exactly the same pitch. if they're not.....you're bridge is off. or you might have a problem w the nut...or the fret slots might be in the wrong spot. or you have some old and tired strings. either way.....it will affect the intonation of the gtr if those harmonics and fretted notes at the 12th fret don't match up.

then again...if you're not tuning to A440, is that cos' you're not using a tuner but your ear instead? if so....you might need to recalibrate your hearing!

trust me (or don't).... there are some badly out of tune moments there.

so are you going to give me a orange heart at soundcloud?.. you can do that for me, it does not cost anything to do that.. would be much appreciated thanks in advance

we have to let others chime in on what they hear sir.. MikeB already said the guitar was in tune with itself, no intonation problems he perceived.. are you just being envious about this?

yeah, dane.....i'm envious of your out of tune gtr work!

congrats on a fine piece of sleuthing on your part there, you got me.

thanks for being honest..

and to think, all these yrs i've been wasting my time paying attention to and working on my intonation on fretless bass and upright!!!!

what WAS i thinking??!?!!

say, anyone wanna buy a bunch of tuners that i no longer have a need for?????

Mark you know damn well there is no way to set intonation on a gut string.. no truss rod.. you know that, why are you being this way..?

what way am i being? honest?

you invited discussion and critique. that's what i'm giving you.

i brought up checking your intonation so you might check and maybe learn that there is (or isn't a problem).

as for adjusting it.....i never said anything about you adjusting it. i just pointed out that if you're serious about learning whether your gtr has intonation issues....that's a surefire way to check it out.

so, are you gonna check it out?

even if the intonation was out, (but it is not) there would be no way to set it on a classical guitar, you know that.. no truss rod to adjust the intonation, I don't have a floating bridge like an archtop would have to set the intonation.. why are you doing this to me? if you hate the tune, so be it, but don't make me out a fool for those reading this.. I am starting to worry about you..are you stressed?

even if the intonation was out, (but it is not) there would be no way to set it on a classical guitar, you know that.. no truss rod to adjust the intonation, I don't have a floating bridge like an archtop would have to set the intonation.. why are you doing this to me? if you hate the tune, so be it, but don't make me out a fool for those reading this.. I am starting to worry about you..are you stressed?

are you seriously pointing fingers elsewhere asking if OTHERS here are stressed out????

but don't make me out a fool for those reading this.

and that's ME who's doing that????

first off, a truss rod does nothing to adjust intonation. it adjusts relief in the neck which has no bearing on the intonation....unless of course your strings are an inch off the fingerboard due to excessive bow.

i suggested you check the intonation so you might see for yourself that you might be playing a gtr w issues. and then you can decide if you want to share future recordings played on a gtr w such issues.

what do you have to lose (other than face) by simply checking that out? why WOULDN'T you want to know if an instrument you use to record has intonation issues?????

now you can take what i just told you for what it is...or you can read more into it if you choose to.

Guitar Mike B stated the guitar is in tune with itself, not at concert pitch, but then I don't like concert pitch, Black Sabbath never played every one of their tunes at concert pitch, so I don't see what you are getting at? as I said, if you don't like it, which obviously you do not, cause you think the guitar is out of intonation then that is your opinion, I and nothing I can do about that.. and Jimmy what kind of a comment is that?..anti-Hillary sentiment I speak out about, and now they all gang up on me.. wow..