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"Who says we have to police the world??"

If we didn't we would most likely be speaking Chinese, Russian, Arabic, German or some other language other than English by now.. Just look how China and Russia have been expanding and building up their military since this clown became commander and chief and began destroying our military. Personally I do not agree with all interventions, especially the ones this commander sanctions, along with some before him. However, any idiot should have the knowledge that without a strong man in the world evil would run rampant, and it is beginning to do just that. We are getting weaker and the enemies of personal freedom are getting more powerful. IMHO
No peace nicks, you will not change my perspective with your banter. I am not ignorant as to the fate of America. As as a servant of God Most High I believe I know how this all shall end. God has said to me. "I am going to bring down America and destroy the monetary systems of this world" And I believe what he has said to me. The proof is all around.

As all Christians know there are two groups of people in this world. Those who shall follow Christ, and those who shall not.. No muslim will ever be at peace with Christianity or America, period, no matter how peaceful they claim to be or appear to be, no matter what sect. For it is written that all who do not worship the beast shall be persecuted. In simple terms, all who do not recognize the God of creation and his Christ serve another god and there shall be enmity between one towards the other...
When the hammer goes down, and he who restrains is lifted, all who do not accept Christ will war with those who have accepted him, and for a while they will defeat them. "All destined for captivity shall go to captivity, all destined for the sword shall die by the sword. This calls for great perseverance on behalf of the saints". So it is written in the operating manual for mankind.

Does this sound as if we can live in peace when each believe they have to convert the world to their individual "truth"? Have we ever lived in peace? The difference is that in fundamental islam Allah says kill the infidel, while Christ commands his followers to love him. All warfare and division are spiritual in nature and are brought about by the ruler of this world. So it is written.

j ook

You're missing a rather big component of this and this ain't been happening for thousands of years...There is fighting at an airbase in Turkey where the USA foolishly holds somewhere between 50 and 100 nuclear bombs.
This is as of 8:00PM US Eastern.

Do pick your favorite conspiracy theory folks:

A: Obama that traitorous hound had decided to make Turkey a nuclear power
B: Our leaders, through almost hilarious stupidity will make Turkey a nuclear power by accident
C: Vlad Putin will vaporize Erdogen if he puts his Islamist mitts on a nuke
D: Fighting could erupt between various Nato powers
E: Various mixtures of the above.
F: Mike missed it

Talbot

The second Ataturk empire puts all power of running the country into the MILITARY to guarantee a secular society. Erdogen has been playing footsie with terrorists and ISIS under the table. He is an Islamist.

So it is actually the responsibility of the military to do exactly this. Obama should not be supporting the tyrant...but he did the same thing when the people of Iran rose up in 2009. Face it, he is a dictator that supports Islamic dictators and Islamic terrorists.



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Policing the world? USA? That's pretty comical.

How many countries have we attacked? We created ISIS and support Al Nusfa (Al Queda Syria). We created a nazi coup in Ukraine and sponsored an attack on Syria who by the way, was our ally. Reminds me of the cops in LA.

We have troops in 118 countries and as a result the world is at peace? Maybe not eh?

I'm with John Wayne, "Minding my own business is a way of life."


Talbot

If America had intervened in the war against Hitler at the offset so many lives and so much money would have been spared. Let a weed grow and it will take over the whole yard. Get rid of the stabilizing force in a community and lawless will run rampant. While you weren't looking the Russians and the Chinese have been taking over more territory since America has been weakened by this socialist tyrant. They are building up their armed forces to stop us from stopping them from their quest for more territory.

It is better to be involved than to let some of the whacko bad actors get nukes and use them to start something that will spiral out of control. Freedom has always had a price, a lot of bloodshed was paid to keep it. But when you loose it you may not be able to get it back at any price. Simple as that.
Someone needs to prevent Mikes A & B from happening. No one wants to get involved in a fight, but sometimes it has to be done to prevent an all out war. America can ignore what is going on in this world and keep to ourselves, but they aren't going to ignore America, and they have made that abundantly clear.

"America stay out of it" reminds me of an anti second amendment guy. Get rid of all the guns and peace will follow. Then when someone is breaking into your "gun free zone" home, or accosts you on your "Gun free street" to rob you or even to kill you, then you might consider that a gun for self defense might not be such a bad thing after all, but then it is too late for you.

This is spiritual warfare and the end goal of the enemy commander is to destroy all human life that does not worship him. He needs the crazies to get what they need to accomplish that goal for him and he will do his best to make it happen.

This sounds Like a fun game Jook.
I guess the money is going to pay for all those underprivileged hard workers on total government support.
I guess the money is going to pay for all the salaries of lifetime senators and congressmen that are only concerned with the "GRAVY" train.
I'll play Jook, you have made some terrific liberal statements in the past.
So do I win a prize.

Name an election where some war-mongering jackass wasn't running on 'strengthening our military.' Big waste of time and money. We don't even defend our own borders. What good is it having a military? Most of the government's imaginary enemies couldn't find us on a map. Our military have become mercs hired out to slime bucket regimes like Saudie Arabia to fight for our 'freedom.' But defend us? Please...

Talbot

"Badstrat wrote:"America stay out of it" reminds me of an anti second amendment guy."

"Oh really?? So all Libertarians are for gun control?? Hah!! You're making me laugh here, Slack.
Do you know ANYTHING about Libertarianism?? "

Are you so eager to post and correct someone that you do not pay attention to what was said? I picture you, in my mind, sitting perched the edge of your chair eagerly waiting for someone to post so that you can post a reply and try to pick apart what they have said. Could it be that you have less of a life than I do (I doubt it, that would be a stretch for anyone)

Where did I mention libertarians? Can you show me where I pointed out libertarians or even implied libertarians.?
Where did I say that any libertarians are anti second amendment or "for gun control"? (Let alone ALL libertarians are for gun control"
I simply referred that phrase, in sentiment, as being similar in nature to a to an anti second amendment guy.
I do hope you are laughing at yourself, it would do you good.

You do understand what the word "reminds" means, right? Do you understand that I was referring to the phrase "America stay out of it" and not a particular person. Where did you see that I was referring to anyones political affiliation? You do understand that I said the "Phrase" "REMINDS me of an anti second amendment guy", right?

I'm sure that if you read it again you'll get it. In the meantime I'll laugh along with you. Perhaps you didn't understand the symbolism within that which you quoted. I could explain it.

The libertarioan ideal of having sovereign rule over their own lives is flawed. Nobody has that option. "Gotta Serve Somebody" But Dylan didn't come up with that, God did.

Well don't come over to my house joockey. If you would shoot the bull so quickly...
What would you do to a PIG?