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I had better stop calling the adjustable wrench I use from time to time a Crescent wrench then, might offend

I've known Jews who talked of jewing someone down on a price. I hear black rappers at nearly every red light at very high volume screaming nigger...I've also heard them call each other that in person.

Take your politically correct and go fly a kite.

White people who play "Jazz" is offensive and racist because its Black American Music.

Jazz is a lie!

Jazz is a oppressive colonialist slave term.

I know some africans developed the banjo off an earlier african stringed instrument design..? weapon of choice before amplification cause a banjo rings out loud especially resonator banjos.. g

I'm at strike two, and will hit foul balls from now on..

and could this have not been better communicated through the use of some tough love on an email account and not this message board? sheesh planetguy..

LOL!

you mean like you did last week w jook? oh, wait....you brought that little spat right to mssg board.

i brought it up here as teaching moment. and what did you learn? possibly....

that the term "jewing someone down" is considered by many as an ethnic slur (even if you don't)

that atheists can still identify w being jewish even if they don't still prct their religion.

that even w/o the INTENT of being offensive , you can still say something that's found offensive. exactly the same as doing something rude...might not have anyone's INTENT to be rude....but rude is still rude. (no, i'm not saying you were being rude)

i know you used the term out of ignorance (not understanding that it's a slur) and you didn't say it w the intent of being "offensive" or racist.

I am sorry, I will still be using the term..maybe we ought to run a poll and see if you have taught anything of value to anybody?

I hope we can still be friends, but it is hard for me to be dictated to, when that term has been used for centuries, and the people using it are not intentionally out to get somebody..now if I were denouncing jews for whatever reason, I would truly be a hate-monger, but I like them as much as nordics..

it is hard to understand how a person with good attributes such as yourself, could judge somebody and then unfriend them over a simple colloquialism ..

my father used that term all the time and I know well he was not a racist or a bigot..I probably picked that term up off of him, and I know damn well he hated Hitler and their mistreatment of jews, and he honored a jewish scrap man on the southeast side of Des Moine where we would go to buy cast iron elevator "buckets" to use as hog waterers inside the farrowing pens.. so please, just because a guy says jewing somebody down does not mean they are trying to be offensive in any way, it's just a figure of speech that has been passed down for generations..nv most probablty however, in non-jewish families..please don't make me out to be a bigot by saying that long-time saying..I doubt if religious jews even give it much consideration or thought if they are not trying to promote some agenda onto some group of people..

good to know your father wasn't hateful of jews. that IS better than if he used the expression in a mean spirited nasty way....but nonetheless, it's still it's still a slur.

my father used the termed "nigger-rigged" and had nothing against blacks. so. by your reasoning i should be able to use that quaint little expression and no one should take offense?

once a week we would "go out for chinks".....(chinese food). hey, he had nothing against the chinese, so i guess it's ok for me to refer to chinese that way?

i lived my first 22 yrs in NYC and NEVER heard the expression "jew someone down" until moving to Fayetteville AR. i first heard it from a bandmate. a very cool and stand up guy .....who had absolutely no idea the significance or origin of that expression. i asked him to repeat it thinking i misheard him, and then i explained to him how that could considered offense.

he was horrified. he'd been hearing and using that expression all his life but never knew it referred to JEWS! he thought it was "JOO you down". i know for a fact that he was very embarrassed. i'd be surprised if he ever used that expression again.

along similar lines....i was waiting tables at a restaurant and a young gal i worked w (real nice kid) was about to mop the floor at closing. she said "well, i have to nigger the floor". she wasn't racist....didn't hate blacks, but that's an expression she grew up hearing. i could have let it pass, but again...that was a teaching moment. so i told her i was surprised she would say that and we had a conversation about it. she explained her family used that expression for yrs and they had nothing against blacks.

sound familiar, dayne.

intent. not her intention to be racist, or say something offensive. and yes, that IS better than some cracker inbred Texan redneck who intentionally uses inflammatory language WITH the INTENT to offend

now, it's not my INTENT to OFFEND all Texans.....hey, I'm sure there are Texans who might call one another or even refer to themselves as "cracker inbred Texan rednecks", so therefore i shouldn't catch any flak for doing the same.

(same bonehead logic as : since some blacks call ea other "nigger" THAT makes it OK for me to use the term)

some might dismiss all this as semantics and "political correctness". it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with being RESPECTFUL of others.

last time....

i didn't call you a racist.

you don't find the expression offensive? good for you. others do. and not just jews.

you still plan on using it? good for you. knock yerself out.

and you believe that someone else hearing you use that who doesn't know you will understand you're NOT a racist and that you harbor no ill feeling towards jews or groups different than yourself? good luck w that.

hey, your call...feel free to use "nigger the floors" and "nigger rigged" as well. as long as YOU don't them view them as offensive... why should anyone else, right?

man up, dayne no one "unfriended you" or "denounced" you as friend. don't be so thin skinned.

i'm telling you that people (and not just jews) DO find the term offensive. no big whoop to you? i got it.

I told you I would not ever use it on this board because you are offended by it, and I still think the people that use it, are not even thinking of it as a slur, but more of just a term used in bargaining..other things people say and not meaning any offense..
"honest injun"
"indian giver"
"cotton pickin'"
"boy"