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#260095 by Displaced Pianist
Tue May 24, 2016 2:09 pm
Not to dissuade you from the current path, but if it's diversion you need, you can always try these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7a1GGL2yUg (Spyro Gyra)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAylaBiYsG0 (Bob James/David Sanborn)

Yeah, they both get maligned as 'anti-jazz' (esp. Bob James)--mostly because they actually write charts and (gawd forbid) released a single that actually got considerable airplay, back when radio was still relevant. I still say it's good jazz. And as Miles noted back in '75, jazz--in it's so-called traditional form--is dead. So he invented fusion and we all moved on...
#260102 by Planetguy
Tue May 24, 2016 6:26 pm
while general consensus tips the hat to miles for creating fusion, a lot of people credit gary burton' s early bands with Larry Coryell. i can see their point.


[url]"One Two Three Four" the album "Duster" from 1967[/url]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_Oa9P ... _HIp64Bi_9

a live cut from '68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVhOCMpsk28&list=PLhKjZEl5pDYNTUohctRK-76gPMN0yzmer&index=4
#260107 by Planetguy
Tue May 24, 2016 6:56 pm
well, it seems like we've gotten onto discussing the "fusion" of rock and jazz or "jazz-rock"....but really if we're talking about fusion as it relates to jazz we can go back to the 40's for afro cuban jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bg2fN8iZaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWKsMYDIOQc

next up you have jazz meets brazilian bossa in the late 50's early 60's.
#260111 by Planetguy
Tue May 24, 2016 8:46 pm
oh yeah....ragtime DID morph into jazz. but that's not quite a "fusion".....as in...it wasn't ragtime PLUS jazz.

hmmm, you played in a band that did that many Coryell tunes?!!!! wow, and to think yo couldn't score gigs! 8)

i liked the stuff he did Phillipe Catherine back then. there's a tune they did duo.. i believe it's called "Snowflakes" . I'd just started playing fretless when i first heard. Coryell is on acoustic gtr and Catherine is playing what sounds like a fretless bass in the upper registers. And he's KILLING IT! i was crestfallen...here's a "guitarist" playing fretless bass like all get out. it wasn't til months later that i learne dhe was actually playing fretless guitar.

(which i suppose is equally imposing and impressive)
#260113 by Planetguy
Tue May 24, 2016 8:58 pm
joseph1122539 wrote:Nice post Planetguy! I'm always thinking of Gary Burton as a soft ballads kind of guy :lol:
That is an odd precursor to " fusion" .... that ain't no rock beat, the guitar is fast & loud, but still too jazzy to say it is rock style, the melody line is not "rock" but does anticipate the soon to be cliched angularity of "fusions" signature riffs.


oh, no...GB can play lovely on ballads w abeautiful touch while voicing chords like bill evans, but he's also a burner!

here's a Steve Swallow tune from 1971 w Sam Brown playing a tele w more of a rock vibe. that's keith jarret growling on soprano!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufK0nC2fGwU

and one more from the same album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMvO9f20wFg

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