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#256558 by Badstrat
Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:20 pm
"We have been given the choice of blessing or curse."

I agree. However what I was pointing out is that there is not a "blessing candidate" within the choice that has been set before us.

Yes, God is the author of both the blessing and the curse. However, the blessing was in the past from what I can see.

Now I see an America that murders and supports murdering the innocent, an America that promotes stealing from one brothers wages to give to another who is undeserving, an America that blesses adultery and promotes fornication, an America that covets the wealth that God has given to another, an America that has removed God from the public square, an America that only mentions God when they want him to bless them in some way, an America where politicians curse Christianity and bless Islam.. Need I go on? Are those not choices? If they are, they certainly are not the choices that will bring a blessing. This is an America that has rejected Gods commandments and denies his existence through its actions and words..
God is bringing and has brought own America and he is destroying the economies of this world. Just my observation. On the brighter side, tribulation opens the eyes and draws men closer to God.
#256563 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:01 pm
I realize people outside of Texas are falling prey to the distortions about Ted Cruz, but again, he has kept every promise he made before he was elected, at great personal cost.

And remember, he was the Tea Party candidate. Every single issue you bring up is something the Texas Tea Party sides with you on. Cruz wouldn't be our rep if he didn't feel the same way. I'm not happy with how smarmy he comes across sometimes yet I can't imagine the pressure he must be under as the leading tea party candidate either.

Politics is a very dirty game. If a person of integrity comes along, they better be as wise as a serpent. Cruz can't win without a lot of money so going national means compromises with unsavory characters if he's going to beat Hillary, or any Soros funded opposition. He also can't be as open about how he would reduce and even eliminate big government without drawing a bigger bullseye on his back...but I believe he is the real deal. The best candidate since Reagan, maybe Eisenhower.

When he says he will dismantle the IRS and replace it with a flat tax, you can believe it. When he says he will push for school vouchers (which will stop the stupidity being taught that got us here) you can believe it. He will govern according to the authority given by the Constitution, and no other authority. Period.

He has a long proven record of doing what is right. All his opposition can do is bring up people around him to try and make linkages that don't really change how he has performed.

On the other hand, Trumps history is not much different than Hillary. Maybe he had a genuine metamorphosis less than two years ago. Maybe he is only manipulating people like dictators do.

I'll roll those dice if I have to but for now I'll choose a sure thing over gambling in trumps casino
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#256568 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:18 pm
Religious bigotry will be the main weapon used against Cruz, and that is why he has tried to keep a lid on it (as much as possible without denying his faith). If that works, all Christians are in deeper doo-doo, including you sir. Not because it's God's will, but because we chose otherwise.

It's sad to see that Drudgereport is all in for Trump these days...and becoming quite a bigot himself. He ran 2" headlines about Cruz being a "closet Pentecostal" like that is a crime. Wow...never saw that coming.

So gays have come out of the closet so they can put Christians in it?

http://eastorlandopost.com/ted-cruz-closet-pentecostal


The saddest thing about this is that Christians are drinking that propaganda up and supporting the wickedest person who has ever run in the GOP, including Nixon. We're about to lose the chance to have a decent person in charge of the country because Christians are so gullible.



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#256570 by Badstrat
Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:39 pm
"Christians are in deeper doo-doo, including you sir. Not because it's God's will, but because we chose otherwise"

"including you sir" Was that meant to be as snippy as it reads?

Was that directed at me? I have not stated anything to the contrary. I have also previously stated that I do not expect to make it through this coming tribulation for many years now. I have often mentioned on this forum that America is already under judgment and I have taken the liberty to list a few reasons while doing that, even in this very thread.

So am I sensing a caustic attitude in your response with the snippy "including you sir" or are you just being snide? Snide is good, I can live with snide. :) :) :)
#256573 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:49 pm
Badstrat wrote:"Christians are in deeper doo-doo, including you sir. Not because it's God's will, but because we chose otherwise"

"including you sir" Was that meant to be as snippy as it reads?

Was that directed at me? I have not stated anything to the contrary. I have also previously stated that I do not expect to make it through this coming tribulation for many years now. I have often mentioned on this forum that America is already under judgment and I have taken the liberty to list a few reasons while doing that, even in this very thread.

So am I sensing a caustic attitude in your response with the snippy "including you sir" or are you just being snide? Snide is good, I can live with snide. :) :) :)



IF snide is ok, then yea it was snide.

I'm projecting my frustration with Christians on you because I've been hearing this same "it's God's will" excuse for voting Trump baloney from too many of them.

No, it's not "God's will" to choose an immoral person when a decent one is available. Forgive me if I read you wrong...just really frustrated with the gullible people buying what Trump is selling.

We have a real chance to change things with Cruz. With Trump we are only going to get war.
#256576 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:27 am
yod wrote:We have a real chance to change things with Cruz. With Trump we are only going to get war.



Oh look....it's already happening.


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/17787a32 ... gop-debate



By calling off this rally, it has only encouraged more of this behavior. He even had Obama's buddy and domestic terrorist Bill Ayers protesting him...that's rich.

BLM will jump all over this strategy now. Sharpton and Obama have finally found a way to start the race war they have wanted for so long, just in time for the election.


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#256579 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:42 am
Yod, you are falling into the same trap. I see you getting to close to the problems. I like Ted Cruz. I like his staunch constitutional principles.
Your last post included things like Trump baloney, and an immoral candidate. That's slinging mud.
Divided nation? Totally. Can Cruz correct the most fundamental problem in our nation? I don't even think Trump can.
What is that problem? Butter... There is not enough money... That can be borrowed... To pay for all the butter being promised through big government, over taxation, and regulation that forces so many "BUTTER" makers to move out of our country.
Our economy is a shamble. You can't keep milking the cow for a gallon of milk when the cow can only produce a quart. When the average government worker is pulling down 6 figures and the average American is only pulling down 5 figures... What is wrong with this picture?

I'm not going to go into details... The many other problems of 60 years of socialism in America are starting to surface. The question then becomes the age old question of war... Guns or Butter?
#256582 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:33 pm
angelsshotgun wrote:Yod, you are falling into the same trap. I see you getting to close to the problems. I like Ted Cruz. I like his staunch constitutional principles.
Your last post included things like Trump baloney, and an immoral candidate.


The "baloney" statement was not about Trump, but about Christians saying it's God's will that they vote for him. The immoral candidate part is simply factual analysis. He's nationalistic and appears patriotic...but he made a large part of his fortune in casinos.


Can Cruz correct the most fundamental problem in our nation? I don't even think Trump can.


I'm sure that Trump can't. All he can do is make people feel like they got revenge on the last guy.

What made this nation great was the Constitution, giving all people equal OPPORTUNITY; which is different than equal RESULTS, as socialism promises.

And right now the IRS is gathering more power than the Gestapo had, including the ownership of our very life, or as they call it: "health-care"


I'm not going to go into details... The many other problems of 60 years of socialism in America are starting to surface. The question then becomes the age old question of war... Guns or Butter?


I think we can have both with a return to the Constitution as our guide, and a balance of government power restored. We are quickly sliding into totalitarian rule. Only this week Obama calls for the ability to unlock our electronic devices without a search warrant, and also for schools to turn in any kid who shows an "anti-government" attitude.

Pure unadulterated fascism! The Constitution does NOT allow it.


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#256591 by Badstrat
Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:31 pm
Yod,

I have no idea of where you would even get the slightest notion that I would vote for trump. I have always said that he is a liberal in disguise and have also referred to him as a chameleon. Any Christian standing with a man who approves of the murdering of the innocent is subject to judgment. Any man who stands for one who supports a con game like ethanol or other government sponsored con games which rob the taxpayer at every level is a fool. I have always thought that Ted Cruz would be a good choice, but in light of what I have been told one man matters little. It is my personal conviction that trying to shore up what God is clearly taking down is foolishness. I know his voice for I belong to him and clearly he said to me "I am going to bring down America and destroy the monetary systems of this world". I will not go into combat against God and fight for a system that is totally corrupt from the highest to the lowest levels.

Just as John Roberts was a good man who opposed obama up until the night before the health care vote, so is it possible for any honest man to be corrupted and turn to evil these days. When the tea party brought fresh blood into the political party in order to support the people over half of them turned and gravitated to evil to oppose the will of those who voted for them. Those in power can threaten a mans family, use blackmail and all manner of persuasion to get their way., and they do exactly that. This is a winner take all world wide game and the people are the pawns.

I will let the world vote for its own destruction, as it is clearly doing. This is not my home. These are not the people that will do the will of the people they are elected to serve. These people are egotistical narcissist zealots who have their own agendas. Even the best of them are not to be trusted to stand up to temptation if the stakes are high enough. They will go along to get along all the while making excuses why they had to betray you for your own good. This is government protecting you from yourself. Politics is a game and I'm not playing it because I am not destined to win. Let the chips fall where they may. Wisdom tells me that it matters not anymore, and perhaps never did.
#256592 by Badstrat
Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:35 pm
" Pure unadulterated fascism! The Constitution does NOT allow it." ......Yeah.!!!!

And I heard that "mama don't allow no guitar playin 'round here" .......either

And you can see how well that worked out
#256593 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:37 pm
Badstrat wrote:" Pure unadulterated fascism! The Constitution does NOT allow it." ......Yeah.!!!!

And I heard that "mama don't allow no guitar playin 'round here" .......either

And you can see how well that worked out




I'll give up when the war is over.

I believe Cruz is the only person in the race who gives a rip about the Constitution, and I believe his record shows that he will adhere to it.

Throw in dismantling the IRS and I'm all in!

Again, sorry if I read too much into what you were saying. Forgive me, brother? We are in agreement on most of this.


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#256648 by MikeTalbot
Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:02 am
I was considering Cruz. Now I'm not.

1) He is trying to be more pro war than the other buffoons. I think we've had enough meaningless wars for a while. 'No fly zones' eh? With Ivan in the mix? Not very smart.

2) He is trying to position himself as God's candidate. Really? is this an election for Pope? Why give ammo to the many loony tunes who are sure every Christian believer is wanting to set up a theocracy.

3) He blamed Trump this weekend for inciting those disgusting fascist 'demonstrators' which is like blaming a mugging victim because sweet little Tyrone nailed him with a stick.

nah...

Not to worry though, I still think it will be Jeb or his bitch boy, against Hilary. The uniparty rules.

Talbot

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