General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Good post Jookeyman. I wasn't just talking about near times. If you are a history "BUFF" you might want to consider what happened after WW1, with president woodrow wilson, the need to raise funds to recover from that war and the creation of the federal reserve that allowed the manipulation of the our monetary system. He was the high tax president that almost sent us into depression.
It was president hoover that sent us back on a collision course with the depression and the NEED for OUR GOVERNMENT... To protect all the American people. Some of the lessons learned will never be discussed because it completely goes against the thought of big government liberals using the peoples money... TO PROTECT THEM.

A side note, the American economy took twice as long to recover than the rest of the world during that depression. Why? I would have to point to a free government stifling the freedom of the true strength of the values that make the American people... So exceptional.

Refugees ... Smefogees ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTDlY4o23XA

... and it is all coming soon to "America" and a Street near you.

The truth of ISIS is the LIE of Obama and McCain ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9TqwlbB_w

,,,,what a difference a name makes

Obama lies ... his "government" lies ...

http://www.infowars.com/us-terror-state ... hospitals/

... the talking lying "heads" which comprise the underlings of Evil are the biggest "deniers" of Truth this world has ever seen ... and knowingly so.

The rocks are uncovered and the filth teems forth doing what it has always done ... corrupting. But this more now than ever before because Evil is in the Hearts of most and it rampages making extinct the Hope of youth, the peaceful future and the promise of Humanity.

Enjoy these last moments ... these last vestiges ... these last facades. For they are about to fall away from you into the Abyss of Nothingness. Do not accompanie them. Make yourselves ready for your Last moments, they approach even now, unseen by diversion and masked by Lies, they hurry forth upon you and yours, anticipating the Feast of Death.


Here is another fine example ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdP95oSoOFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjOqcGSTL5M



all the world is a victim of Evil now ... even those who are unaware of it or refuse to recognise it.

When SOCIETY allows the individual to succeed to the highest levels possible, all SOCIETY prospers...
When society ATTEMPTS to limit the actions of an individual, the risk of the whole SOCIETY is doomed to mediocrity, and a doorway to outright evil.

wow, you really like dancing on their strings don't ya?

your Alice in Wonderland scenario makes no sense in a world where the greedy never have enough and will always be too quick to exploit others so they might line THEIR pockets w even MORE.

and it never will make sense as long as greed exists...guess what, it ain't going nowhere anytime soon.

so, you would have us return to sweatshop conditions? 70 hr wk wks? child labor? no minimum wage? no OSHA regulations to provide a safe workplace?

and like a manipulated puppet of the super wealthy....you would return to those because you believe all those things hurt the super wealthy and keep them from "succeeding"... and so, we're ALL kept from succeeding. wow.

dance, puppet. dance.

Glen ... I thank you for your Post ... well stated.

Planet Guy, you must consider not reacting to Glen's Posts in such closed minded ways. Of course you are free to do as you wish ... at least for a few more moments. It is much more important to begin to find common ground with those who are not enemies with hidden agendas. I ry to do this and of course fail from time to time as well.

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is filled with hidden meanings covering a wide range of topics from victorian England to todays "Fallen world". It makes perfect sense in our present world regardless of which level of society anyone exists upon.

The Greedy never have enough ... after all that is what being greedy is all about. Lust for Power however is not to be equated with simple Greed I believe.

I do not recall any puppets in Alice's Adventures Greed is only a very small part of Evil ... a facet ... in my opinion Greed has been falsely elevated and raised far beyond what it is ...much like that which "passes" for President in "America's Wonderland".

"It" is going somewhere ... "It" is going down ... into the Abyss ... becoming swallowed and gone.

When individuals succeed to their highest level and government is limited to serving those whom it represents ... then there would be no "return" to sweatshop conditions ... 70 hr. work weeks ...government sponsored pedophilia ... fiat currency and over regulation by bloated top heavy governmental agencies like OSHA, TSA, FBI, CIA, DHS, FEMA and so very many others. these would become eliminated and replaced with Responsibility and Duty.

Those who can not or who fail to see this are in fact the manipulated Puppets ... not dancing on strings but hung out to dry. The Puppets are the Political filth. The Zombies are those who "believe" the{puppets and who follow them endlessly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZvOSrrzlZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cU7Ab6mzQo

Food for Thought

Very well stated Vamp. I only see illogical attacks against all common sense. Be careful, you missed a T. That can lead to an attack about what a horrible sh#t head speller you are.

Planet Guy, you must consider not reacting to Glen's Posts in such closed minded ways. Of course you are free to do as you wish ... at least for a few more moments. It is much more important to begin to find common ground with those who are not enemies with hidden agendas. I ry to do this and of course fail from time to time as well.

and you're free to interpret my posts w whatever judgments and characterizations that you wish.... including close minded ones.

and in the interest of clarity, for the record....i've never considered glen (or anyone here) as an 'enemy'.

Ta Glen.

Planet Guy, thank you for your response. I do not consider you as an enemie, more of a sparring partner ...quick, intelligent, talented, Individual, opinionated, human, worthy ... with an ability to infuriate some others, annoy and frustrate... not afraid of confrontation. What more could anyone wish for in a "sparring partner.

I find it extremely interesting here upon this forum for a great many reasons. One is that such conflict and argument and even at times insult can arise despite most of us never meeting one another face to face. I have come to the opinion that if we do or ever did, we would probably get on very well and have a good time and laugh together.

You are consistent and that counts for much now, especially within the Internet. Yes i disagree with you on many subjects and viewpoints but i still have come to like you somewhat and respect what you are. I feel this way about many here in this Forum. some have scratched a place in my Heart and others have won a place. In these waning days i intend to continue to be whatever it is that I am but also try at least to enjoy whatever it is that others here are. Of course everyone knows this can be quite a challenge for any of us.

The Human Spirit dwells in all of us to some extent. We are living dinosaurs in many respects. this alone binds us all together. Music of course is the glue. Another aspect is that we have within us all a great living desire to make music and to communicate ... even verbally. We are somewhat social beasts despite our occasional monk hoods.

I think as the future declines and vanishes for each of us ... we will all look back and remember one another with great fondness, appreciating each other especially when we look about us in the dimness of the coming present, and see those who sparsely dot our vision.

There are many here which i have not had much contact with but they have endeared themselves nevertheless. Haley would be a fine example of this. We all get character sketches from the others and these are well formed by our various discourses. If it were not for politics and religion then we all might have great difficulty getting any argument going. Music is the glue. Of course some of it is more sticky than some of the other, perhaps even more binding.

We have all entered the final phases of our lives even if we try to ignore this ... it is Truth. This is not a bad thing, most probably others might even consider it rather merciful. But the Valkyries are circling amongst the chemtrails. I for one intend to run full on across the RainBow Bridge and i hope I see some of those here when this happens.

None of this is because i have lost my urge to fight, disagree or argue. I think it is the realisation that the Life book is closing and rather than panic , I would much rather look around me and see who is there ... and enjoy the moments left. All of us being by virtue hunted in some aspect, it is good to enjoy these brief remnants of rest. Combat and struggle and the throes of Death are just around the corner now. It will soon be not a question of victory but of how many of them can we make die.

I find it all rather glorious and filled with potential rather than depressing and fearful. We will all be entering another Dream.

I have come to the opinion that if we do or ever did, we would probably get on very well and have a good time and laugh together.

this is an oft voiced and recurring notion that's been put forth by many here (including myself). i quite agree.

i will continue to take a pass w regards to signing on to your doomsday calendar and schedule of events, but there is little else for me disagree with that you had to say.


i especially like this....

Another aspect is that we have within us all a great living desire to make music and to communicate ... even verbally. We are somewhat social beasts despite our occasional monk hoods.

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"monk hoods"...nice.

No that would never happen MARK. I don't like you, and you don't like me... Real clear! We will never sit around a campfire blowing kisses at each other.

"never blowing kisses..."

Glenn

Trust me, politics are the small change of life. People matter.

I probably won't ever vote like Mark or you for that matter - I'm a fringe element of no consequence. But ultimately, so what?

Talbot