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#233035 by Planetguy
Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:10 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Planetguy wrote:I wonder what haley would say. prolly something like this....

J-HALEY wrote:. It amazes me how you liberals try to discredit someone by changing the subject. Do you have ADHD? Your boring attempt is so cliche' it's laughable. :lol:




but to this.....

yod wrote: It's just sad that you won't even consider that you've been manipulated and lied to about this person, not even willing to think about it if it doesn't fit the narrative that ALL conservatives are racist?

That's cause they are Mark!

I never said all conservatives were racists nor do I believe that. you however DID say that most racists are dems and libs.
That's cause they are Mark:wink: :wink:



as usual, jeff...I can't argue with your logic. :wink:

#233041 by J-HALEY
Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:36 pm
Planetguy wrote:
J-HALEY wrote:
Planetguy wrote:I wonder what haley would say. prolly something like this....

J-HALEY wrote:. It amazes me how you liberals try to discredit someone by changing the subject. Do you have ADHD? Your boring attempt is so cliche' it's laughable. :lol:




but to this.....

yod wrote: It's just sad that you won't even consider that you've been manipulated and lied to about this person, not even willing to think about it if it doesn't fit the narrative that ALL conservatives are racist?

I guess you know better LOL
That's cause they are Mark!

I never said all conservatives were racists nor do I believe that. you however DID say that most racists are dems and libs.
That's cause they are Mark:wink: :wink:



as usual, jeff...I can't argue with your logic. :wink:
:wink:

#233044 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:07 pm
Planetguy wrote:hell, I don't do that w conservatives and those that hold different views than mine. it kinda comes off a little condescending.



Ok, then I stand corrected. Didn't know there was a video of him talking, been out of the country until today. Whether he did or didn't, I don't know either way, haven't kept up with it. Just saying the people stirring up racial hatred in America today are the leftists. But I come from a town run by the KKK and know that they are all hard-core Democrats. I'm sure an Obama candidacy caused them quite a personal conflict.

It just burns me up that we are being lied to in SO many ways by the current Federal Govt and most of the media is not reporting (investigation for facts) but rather just repeating (propaganda).


Like this example today: It is now clear (always was for most of us) that the so-called "phony scandal" where we were told the White House had supplied all available information...except for....oops....another 32,000 pages of evidence that has been found, which proves Susan Rice was specifically told to LIE by the chief of staff in the White House to America about how 4 brave Americans, including an Ambassador, were allowed to die with no so much as a whimper from the world's greatest military...and no reprisals for their deaths yet, though CNN got an interview with the murderer with very little effort.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/352075023000 ... show-clips


Note that this isn't being mentioned by the NYT or NBC. They are not being deceived, they are themselves deceivers. So I believe nothing they have to say without verification from several sources.



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#233045 by Planetguy
Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:44 pm
yod wrote: Just saying the people stirring up racial hatred in America today are the leftists. But I come from a town run by the KKK and know that they are all hard-core Democrats. I'm sure an Obama candidacy caused them quite a personal conflict.


well, ted.... you have your dealings w racists and I have (and have had) mine. I disagree wholeheartedly w your take on whiich camp harbors the most racists.

there will always be those who "stir it up" to make a point and remind us that the ugliness of racism is STILL out there. (call their motives into question if you must). sometimes we DO need to reminded that racism still exists.

and then.... there are those who ARE racist.

MY experience w the KKK (and I too sadly have been around those yahoos) is quite the opposite of your's as to their political leanings.

we'll just have to disagree on this point.

as to your other beefs.....sorry, but I'm really not all that into debating politics on this site these days.

sorry, and I hope you don't see that as as a copout.

anyone who's been around here any time knows that I don't shrink from a disagreement (or worse).... but these days I just don't see the point of arguing this stuff on a message board. no one is ever swayed from their corner and bad feelings and ill wind too often result.

so...I'm (mostly) back to talking music. whatcha got, son??? 8)

#233047 by VinnyViolin
Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:58 pm
yod wrote:
It just burns me up that we are being lied to in SO many ways by the current Federal Govt and most of the media is not reporting (investigation for facts) but rather just repeating (propaganda).


Like this example today: It is now clear (always was for most of us) that the so-called "phony scandal" where we were told the White House had supplied all available information...except for....oops....another 32,000 pages of evidence that has been found, which proves Susan Rice was specifically told to LIE by the chief of staff in the White House to America about how 4 brave Americans, including an Ambassador, were allowed to die with no so much as a whimper from the world's greatest military...and no reprisals for their deaths yet, though CNN got an interview with the murderer with very little effort.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/352075023000 ... show-clips


Note that this isn't being mentioned by the NYT or NBC. They are not being deceived, they are themselves deceivers. So I believe nothing they have to say without verification from several sources.




It's Dishonest to Talk about Benghazi Without Talking About the Syrian War

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/ ... n-war.html

Posted on May 8, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
Both Parties Are Trying to Sweep the Bigger Story Under the Rug

According to Democrats, today's Congressional hearings on Benghazi are nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

According to Republicans, the Obama administration committed treason in it's handling of Benghazi and then tried to cover it up.

Both parties are avoiding the bigger picture .. The fact that Democrats and Republicans alike have been using Benghazi as the center of U.S. efforts to arm the Al Qaeda-affiliated Syrian rebels.

Specifically, the U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya's Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists........
...........
................ In other words, both GOP and Dem politicians are supporting instability and war, based upon false pretenses and pro-war media coverage, just like Iraq.

#233064 by J-HALEY
Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:49 am
Planetguy wrote:
yod wrote: Just saying the people stirring up racial hatred in America today are the leftists. But I come from a town run by the KKK and know that they are all hard-core Democrats. I'm sure an Obama candidacy caused them quite a personal conflict.


well, ted.... you have your dealings w racists and I have (and have had) mine. I disagree wholeheartedly w your take on whiich camp harbors the most racists.

there will always be those who "stir it up" to make a point and remind us that the ugliness of racism is STILL out there. (call their motives into question if you must). sometimes we DO need to reminded that racism still exists.

and then.... there are those who ARE racist.

MY experience w the KKK (and I too sadly have been around those yahoos) is quite the opposite of your's as to their political leanings.

we'll just have to disagree on this point.

as to your other beefs.....sorry, but I'm really not all that into debating politics on this site these days.

sorry, and I hope you don't see that as as a copout.

anyone who's been around here any time knows that I don't shrink from a disagreement (or worse).... but these days I just don't see the point of arguing this stuff on a message board. no one is ever swayed from their corner and bad feelings and ill wind too often result.

so...I'm (mostly) back to talking music. whatcha got, son??? 8)

Yeah sure, Mark not interjecting his political opinions? When hell freezes over! :lol:

#233352 by DainNobody
Fri May 09, 2014 9:38 am
that is what America the Beautiful is about.. voicing our opinions is what Patrick Henry fought for..

#233424 by gtZip
Sun May 11, 2014 6:30 pm
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:that is what America the Beautiful is about.. voicing our opinions is what Patrick Henry fought for..


I thought it was Daniel Boone

#233426 by MikeTalbot
Sun May 11, 2014 8:44 pm
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government, lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry
1736-1799

But, as Lou Reed put it, "Those were different times."

Talbot

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