General Music Chat

I'd buy a ticket to the "SHOOT BUSH" show. lol

I need 4 for the front row, please. And we'll bring our own splatter shield. lol

They are expensive tickets, but since you are a friend from the board... I will give you four free passes. *Hands them over*

I have seen hated people, but Bush seems to be among the most hated group, lol.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

I have to laugh, 'round here we all think that Clinton made us look the worst. (the us president that got a blow job under the podium during a speech)

But everyone hates BUSH more. The guy is a retard. Talk about a power hungry, national guard dodging jerk off.

If any of the rest of us were given the chance to fly military hardware, it'd be 9-5 "Fly the military skies" drop a few bombs and back to the base for a miller time early bird special with steak and salad for din-din, maybe a quick go round with the female du jour and do it all over again in the AM gladly.

Bush's yellow streak is a mile wide, and yet he has the balls to send everyone else to war.

No one any good ever came from the NATIONAL GUARD. And people that dodged it, usually end up at Leavenworth.

Unless daddy has pull plus.

Bush is an asshole, period. I think he is the worst President that ever lived at this rate. He is a war monger and a lunatic. I doubt we are going to survive all the way until the next inauguration of a new President, he is going to put us into another war by then - probably with Iran.

So yeah, I am sure another draft is coming, but he will not mind. How would he like it if we took his two daughters and strapped a machine gun on their back, with grenades, military apparel, boots, and night vision goggles, and stuck them into Iraq? Then made them try to avoid road bombs and terrorist who love to immolate themselves to take our soldiers out...?

Yeah, I am sure he would love it then. If we gave him Parkinson's I am sure he would pass the stem cell research bill as well.

See, these assholes we call "leaders," are nothing but scumbags who do as they please and do not care what the people say.

Peace out, GuitarAnatomy.

You are welcome, but I aint no gentleman and you can tell by my spellin I'm no schooler. History has always been a dark facination for me. As a decendent of the blood thirsty Germanic hoards. Again I say welcome to America may you live free and vote your heart. And I will drink a beer in your honor on the Saints day. Sorry, it wont be green.
It maybe an interesting side bar for you but apparently the potato famine was in part due to the last episode of significant "climate change". Too much moisture in the ground for that particular strain of spud. Danged SUV drivers really screwed you guys over.

And yes this war as all are was about economics. Anyone whom believes that the slave issue was anything more than propiganda is incapable of processing the tons of historical facts that are available.

The North was industialized and had machines doing much of their work. The South was convinced the North was trying to destroy them, by taking away what was felt was their only means of keeping up with the North... virtually free labor. So, economics was a big part of the scenario. The South, and the North agreed on one thing... that if the expansion of slavery was stopped, that slavery would eventually wither and die out.

But maintaining power, and the ability, in a states-rights fashion, to not be controlled by the North politically was just as important an issue as economics was. The North had become increaingly powerful as industrialization brought economic superiority. The South had already lost control of the House, and it looked as if they could be subjected to a permanent minority role in federal government, meaning the federal government almost controlling them politically and their having little to say about it, not having the votes to do anything about it.

But, as much as economins and political power were the forces behind the war, slavery WAS a big motivator itself, believing it an evil enterprise. Harriet Beecher Stowe's book "Uncle Tom's Cabin" essentially an anti-slavery book, was hugely popular at the time, and Lincoln himself when introduced to it's author, was claimed to have said to her ""the little woman who wrote the book that started this great war."

Debates for and against slavery were raging, and the North considered it more and more of an evil, as time passed. 7 out of 8 immigrants, immigrated to the North, rather than the South, and even a great number of Southerners began moving North, for the economic opportunities available there.

So yes, it was about economics, and it also was about states rights and political survival, but also yes, it WAS about the evils of slavery as well. These are ALL accurate.

btw... Ralph Nader has just entered the presidential race. There is a slight possibility that this could tip the scales to Repulicans. If I was a Democrat I'd be pissed. He already stole one election away from the Dems.

But, I think Obama is a more desireable candidate to people than Gore was back then though. I bet Nader has less of an impact this time around. I don't think anyone has forgotten the lesson of the 2000 election. And are unlikely to repeat it.

While I do not believe Nader's candidiacy did a thing to hurt the 2000 election (believe me I have been in lots of back and forths with my fellow Democrats over that one) he never fails to get the dander up of my party. He will be an irritant but not a real factor.

I'm going with Obama this time around. The idea of that unhinged wench Hillary Clinton with her hand on the military trigger just scares the mud out of me.

ANYONE BUT HILLARY DILLARY DOCK.

It looks like the choices we are now presented with (Obama, Clinton, and McCain) are three of the lamest choices we have ever had. Obama is a total unknown. He hasn't said anything specific. Nothing but platitudes coming out of his mouth. Hillary is nasty and carries significant baggage, including many past scandals. If she had divorced Bill after the Lewinsky affair I would have much more respect for her than I do now. McCain is simply too old. I'm not sure he doesn't have the beginning of Altzheimers. I don't think he can make it four years, let alone eight. If I had to vote for any of these three I would vote for Obama. At least there's the promise he may be a good president some day. He certainly has youthful vitality, he's no fool, and a complete change in our government may be a good thing, not a bad thing. He is rated THE most liberal of the senators, but as president he will not be able to enact all of his liberal agenda. I definitely don't want Hillary and McCain represents old school Washington poiticians, a new man in town may shake things up for the better. All we can do is hope and pray. Oh I forgot about Nader, I guess he's running for president again. I may have to reconsider and vote for him, NOT. Later...

It looks like the choices we are now presented with (Obama, Clinton, and McCain) are three of the lamest choices we have ever had...

You know what Bob?

I just recently learned to read your threads starting at the subject line, and here you go and cheat me out of it this time!

That sucks bro! LOL

Being a bit "long in the tooth" myself, I hate to admit it, but Bob's point about McCain being too old has crossed my mind. I know people in my own neighborhood that I believe would make a better president then those offered. Anyways, any one smart enough to do the job wouldn't accept it! (I'm considering "writing in" Capt. Scott! , at least he has balls)

Being a bit "long in the tooth" myself, I hate to admit it, but Bob's point about McCain being too old has crossed my mind.

His 96 year old mother, who joins him alot on the campaign trail, may disagree. LOL

Don't you just want to go out and knock on all your neighbor's doors and tell them how inspired you are? Doesn't he fill you with political fervor? Does he make your chest fill with patriotic pride? Or does he make you feel deflated? Or does he make you feel like it's the same old lame crappy worthless platitude speaches again? Or does he make you just shake your head and proclaim isn't there anybody better to lead our country? Well there's always Nader. Or the communist party candidate or the libertarian party candidate, or perhaps I'll draft my local dogcatcher for President. Later...

When McCain speaks doesn't it get you excited?...

Not really.

But I'm old. I don't want to be excited. I want a stable life, free from buildings being bombed and the government f*cking me in the ass, and making me pay them for it.

Then be sure and stop supporting American regimes that make people want to bomb us by our insipid foreign policy choices.

Contrary to prevailing wisdumb, these things don't just happen in a vacuum.