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#229967 by J-HALEY
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:49 pm
Planetguy wrote:who called you a liar? what's the matter jeff, guilty conscience?

that's more than can be said about that lying whiner who has no guilt about twisting other's words and spewing one lie after another.

for the record....i didn't "twist your words".

on the contrary....i put them up EXACTLY as you wrote them. no "twisting". your words speak clearly enough, no?

J-HALEY wrote:Your liberal thinking will turn this country into a nation of big corporations and a GOVERNMENT that's in their back pocket! You see they have it figured out. Keep the nitwits fighting amongst themselves and they won't be fighting us. Divide and conquer get it?


and they show that you made NO mention of republicans..........only "liberals" when you made your case about "divide and conquer". again i invite you to show me how i got that wrong reading what you WROTE. or please....explain what it is you believe i "twisted", as you claim i did.

i mean really, how SHOULD that be interpreted knowing the blinders you wear when it comes to your team?

where EXACTLY did you mention BOTH sides are guilty of that? oh, yeah...right, you DIDN'T.

and next, when i respectfully point out that the right is guilty of that too.....well, out come the claws and questions about my employment record! wow. (someone cue the lying attack dog to accuse ME of "attacking")

i'm real disappointed in you, jeff... that you'd stoop to the lowlife move of questioning my employment record. i mean....really?

that's a weak bush league move and attempt at distraction that's best left to dishonest invertebrates who talk out of both sides of their mouth and still say nothing.

points off bro.

as it happens i've worked all my life at one job or another.

SHALL I LIST THEM FOR YOU????? do you need references and dates of employment too? let me know.

... as if doing music full time ISN'T a worthy enough "job" in YOUR book???

shame on you.


as for El Douche whining about me backing up my so called "facts".....i don't recall ever putting my VIEWS, OPINIONS, or BELIEFS out there and representing them as "facts". i leave that for your team.

glenny can lie about it all he wants (and he will cos that's how HE plays to win) but here's how i presented my VIEWS.....


Planetguy wrote:i

just doing exactly what you did... i stated MY views on "divide and conquer".


Planetguy wrote:does anyone on here have illusions about swinging someone over to the logic of THEIR political or religious beliefs?


see, that's how folks who DON'T "twist words" or put words in another's mouth do things. we back up what we say and give examples when possible. we don't just shoot our mouth off.

i pointed out, jeff that you laid that "divide and conquer" bit off on libs.....and i SHOWED you where, and when you said it.....sorry bro, your words speak for themselves. do they not?

as do my words above about me expressing my BELIEFS, and VIEWS.

and still you won't admit that "divide and conquer" is the exact strategy that talk radio, faux news, and the tea party uses on a regular basis.



re: "facts"....why would anyone believe a liar w a proven track record of distorting the truth when it comes to his BS about me not backing up my "facts"? unlike other's i don't present my VIEWS as facts. that's dishonest so i'll leave that tactic to glenny and others of his questionable ethics.

clearly i never claimed them to be anything more than my views, opinions, and beliefs.

now, if anyone wants to refute that....please give examples, and feel free to QUOTE my words...not twist them and misrepresent what i've said w baseless claims.


gawd, i hate liars. nothing worse in my book. how DO they live w themselves?

Mark, could you please explain all that again? I didn't quite get all of it please include your neat little paraphrases? :P

#229968 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:15 pm
:P :lol:

#229972 by Planetguy
Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:35 pm
PAGE NINE ...third post is WHERE YOU picked this fight.


and STILL you lie about it. :roll:

#229975 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:59 pm
No dude, you picked this fight A WHILE BACK.
You say page 9. I wasn't talking about this thread alone.
Go to page 9 your thread about being consatpated (sic)

You attack every one. Unfortunately every once in a while you are going to run in to some one like me.

It seems you have a problem with every one. This is a continuing situation.
I happen to be your main target. Why? I'm not that easy to bully...

Bring it on dude or go home the loser! :P

#229980 by Starfish Scott
Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 am
aye-yi-yi..

#229984 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:55 am
Scotty please just step aside. This guy doesn't even like you.

#229988 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:08 am
Mark, I would like to consider you a friend. You inserted your ego into this debate, having said that I have to wonder why you did NOT answer my question? My Question WAS, have you always been a pro musician or, have you ever had a REAL job?
Basically, are you into "your art" or is your profession "would you like fries wit dat? :lol:

#229991 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:30 am
Jeff this guy is a friend to no man. He insults and bullies every one. His posts go back a long way. Same old name calling bull.

I think you have tremendous playing skills... But not what is called for when dealing with some one at his level.

What he doesn't get is that I am going to stand up every time he goes after some one else.

Please stand down and stop setting your self up for his abuse... He does it well.

Either he cleans up his act or he can keep trying to put me down... Maybe so he can put his boots on my throat. LOL.

KEEP ROCK'N Jeff.

#229993 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:37 am
GLENNY J wrote:Jeff this guy is a friend to no man. He insults and bullies every one. His posts go back a long way. Same old name calling bull.

I think you have tremendous playing skills... But not what is called for when dealing with some one at his level.

What he doesn't get is that I am going to stand up every time he goes after some one else.

Please stand down and stop setting your self up for his abuse... He does it well.

Either he cleans up his act or he can keep trying to put me down... Maybe so he can put his boots on my throat. LOL.

KEEP ROCK'N Jeff.


Glenny, for the 3rd time in some years you have insulted my intelligence. I have kept my PIEHOLE shut, having said that PHUK YOU!

I think I'll just resort back to my family and music! :roll:

#229995 by Planetguy
Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:59 am
J-HALEY wrote:Mark, I would like to consider you a friend.


and well you should, jeff. we've been down this road before. you and i are always gonna disagree about politics. so what? i don't really know why you got so upset when i disagreed w the statement you made.


You inserted your ego into this debate, having said that I have to wonder why you did NOT answer my question?


no ego at all. and i was merely pointing out that i disagreed with the premise i saw you put forward about libs and dems being the ones using the "divide and conquer" strategy.

if i got that wrong and interpreted your words incorrectly....my bad. still i never did see you acknowledge that those on the right do the very same.

no matter.

My Question WAS, have you always been a pro musician or, have you ever had a REAL job?


now see...that's an innocent enough question when put forward like that.

however after going a couple of rounds talking POLITICS.....from out of no where you come out w the question "have you ever had a real job?".

now, excuse me.....in the middle of a conversation about music that makes perfect sense and i would know where you were coming from.....

..but in the middle of the POLITICAL conversation where music is completely irrelevant and we WERE having at it.....well, it came off to me as a cheap shot. can you see how i would construe it that way?

Basically, are you into "your art" or is your profession "would you like fries wit dat? :lol:


jeff, i've been making my living playing music full time since 2000. i've been a pro (as in making money at it...i believe THAT is the proper definition of a "pro") since i was 18 while doing other jobs.

#229996 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:11 am
J-HALEY wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:Jeff this guy is a friend to no man. He insults and bullies every one. His posts go back a long way. Same old name calling bull.

I think you have tremendous playing skills... But not what is called for when dealing with some one at his level.

What he doesn't get is that I am going to stand up every time he goes after some one else.

Please stand down and stop setting your self up for his abuse... He does it well.

Either he cleans up his act or he can keep trying to put me down... Maybe so he can put his boots on my throat. LOL.

KEEP ROCK'N Jeff.


Glenny, for the 3rd time in some years you have insulted my intelligence. I have kept my PIEHOLE shut, having said that PHUK YOU!

I think I'll just resort back to my family and music! :roll:



We will do it your way. :roll: Rock on.

#229997 by Planetguy
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:13 am
GLENNY J wrote:Jeff this guy is a friend to no man. He insults and bullies every one. His posts go back a long way. Same old name calling bull.



more evidence of your total disregard for honesty.

with your well known track record around here....YOU talking about ANYONE engaging in attacks, name calling, bullying, etc is downright laughable at best and despicably dishonest and hypocritical at worst.

liars are ALWAYS hypocrites.

do you think anyone who's been on this site for any time has forgotten how many attacks you've launched?

my first day on here you welcomed me by jumping my $hit. deny it all you want. there are others who have similar stories.

and no one, trust me NO ONE believes half the baseless accusations and lies you regularly toss off.

how many people have YOU run off this site w your windbag bullying? who can count that high? how many woman have you chased off w your callous and offensive comments?

i recall you attacking a 16 yr old kid whose only offense was asking some musical questions. you told him "go home and suck on your momma's tits".

classy move.

between your patronizing ways, your feckless sucking up, your over the top hypocrisy, and your endless distortions and lies ...i have to say you are truly one classless piece of $hit.

you fool no one.

#229998 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:15 am
There you go again with you libs and dems? Your attempt at putting words in my mouth has failed once again. What? Phuk you too! I am putting your rediculous ass back on ignore! My advice to you is to study law. :roll:

#229999 by Planetguy
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:20 am
J-HALEY wrote:There you go again with you libs and dems? Your attempt at putting words in my mouth has failed once again. What? Phuk you too! I am putting your rediculous ass back on ignore! My advice to you is to study law. :roll:


why isn't relevant? isn't that what we were talking about that got you going in the first place.

jeff....you got it all wrong here bro. all wrong. no one's putting words in your mouth. in fact if you read the above you'll see i said "if i got that wrong...my bad".

s'ok...i'm gonna chalk it up to you having a bad night, buddy.

#230000 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:21 am
Yeah, What Mr Haley said.
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