General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Cajundaddy ... I thank you for your most excellent observations and comments. Your three word summation is very powerful in its directness and simplicity. Well Done.

Kramer ... Interesting reference. Wrth watching and thinking about. I than you. Your points are always both interesting and well taken. "TED" I believe must always be viewed as everything else ... with obvious suspicion. It is of particular note that all too often these "fordeen" problems are always somehow equated in billions of dollars. Hypothetical as they may be there seems to be always a threshold of no return just around the corner, a huge and growing pricetag, a "sincere" effort being made to simplify things for the percieved stupid audience and the ever present and unbelievable underlying motivation of " real concern". When I hear any of these things I want to reach for my revolver. But alas that is just me. I do than you for your Post and do not desire to dicourage you in any way.

Mankind it seems , we all agree, is in real danger of extinction from so many directions. I believe that he always has been. At any rate the outlook is indeed pessimistic. Religion has not solved or cured anything and it is the same for politics, war, education, and social enlightenment. It seems that everything mankind does becomes tainted by greed and his animalistic urges. The "Leaders" are the finest examples of this.

I do not believe this physical plane is the only existence ... if I did then I would not find the "hope" at the bottom of Pandora's Box. We must all come closer together and forsake the perversions and diversions, exchanging them for something more Spiritual and lasting and even perhaps more noble ?

VAMP... You have some I.Net back?

It is so good to hear from you. Hope you and the Mrs are all well.


Now let's go make our government understand that in this country... our country... THE AUTHORITY DOES NOT COME FROM THE GOVERNMENT. IT COMES FROM THE PEOPLE... THAT HAVE AUTHORIZED A GOVERNMENT... TO AVOID ANARCHY! HOWEVER WE WILL NEVER ALLOW DICTATORSHIP!!

Damn... Way to many stupid people. YES... THEY ARE STUPID!!!

...Glenny I am indeed back upon the Internet. It is good to hear from you and the others as well. As Holmes would say "there is much afoot". The Winds of Change are blowing and increasing in force. The Great Dark Storm is now upon us.

Of course there are many who do not believe it, who think they are still protected by the Constitution and Government. When they eventually realize what is happening then it will be far too late for them and all the others.

Tendimus hue omnes ... metam propera mus ad unam. Omnia sub leges mors vocat atra suas.
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Has anyone else been bothered by the spews media constantly televising the "baby pic" of the surviving brother? Playing for sympathy, obviously.

So why? Just like it was with Trever, trying a sympathy ploy to get the guilty off and condemn the innocent. Typical Marxist behavior.

I think it is a great way to divert the fact that there are more involved than they admit there are. The baby pick is a diversion. Compare that sweet baby picture of him with the scruffy bank camera and street cam photos of the same murdering jerk.

Unshaved carrying his bomb on his back without concern for anything other than the number of victims he will score. And then we only get to see the innocent looking"baby" pics of him whenever he is mentioned in the evening spews.

These bastards are working a sympathy ploy to get him off death row and all the bodies aren't even in the ground yet. They are disgusting excuses for human beings.

...Glenny I am indeed back upon the Internet. It is good to hear from you and the others as well. As Holmes would say "there is much afoot". The Winds of Change are blowing and increasing in force. The Great Dark Storm is now upon us.

Of course there are many who do not believe it, who think they are still protected by the Constitution and Government. When they eventually realize what is happening then it will be far too late for them and all the others.

Tendimus hue omnes ... metam propera mus ad unam. Omnia sub leges mors vocat atra suas.
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Now you are pushing me... So here goes... Omnia propera mus ad omnes!

Geeze are you still pissed at me because you have such a gorgeous wife


I'm gay, jewish , black, broke and educated by my local community. PLEASE SUPPORT ME... Before I go muslim.

I am so mean... Sorry.

...Glenn ... Thank you for your Post.

"We are bound thither, we are hastening to the same common goal. Black death calls all things under the sway of it's laws."
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I thank you for the compliments regarding my Wife. I am going to try and put a photo up of her with her Viola on my Profile tomorrow.

I used to live in Watertown ... certainly happy I no longer do.

There is a dampness in the wind tonight and it smells of blood. My thoughts are often fueled by the twilight now. Tonight EHECATL rides upon the winds.

The Dragon also came to Buddha.

....The Grand Illusion ... Your "Life" ...

....Re Examine all that you now take for granted and believe to be Truth.

....Re Affirm your friendships and be very discerning even with family.

Re Assess your security and abilities to survive loss of money, property, food and water.

Retirement Funds and Pensions are being taken.

Currencies will be de-valued

Food prices will skyrocket

Financial "Crisis" will be implemented to never before seen "Total Collapse"

Guns and Properties will be confiscated.

Rural Lands will be cleared of populations.

Resulting swelling urban populations will be "controlled" and imprisoned.

Food, water and medical care will be "rationed" for the purpose of euphenasia.

The mythical "middle class" will be "eliminated" and "merged" with the lower.

Populations ... Mankind ... You ...will be reduced to an animal level and sterilized, harvested and culled out of existence ...OBLIVION.

The foundations of everything you have known in your entire little life are being swept away before your very blind eyes. You are being bled, poisoned, experimented upon, abused and lied to constantly. You have been "zombiefied" long ago ... conditioned ... placated.

Your dreams ... your future ... your children ... all have been slow killed and no longer have any relevance. Your abilities to discern, think, analyze ...all independently ... are non-existent. They are all controlled and manipulated without your knowledge. You are NOT FREE, have not been free for quite some time and most probably now you will never become free ... even in death.

You are dull witted ... numb ... dumb ... and have been for so long that you are part of the Walking Dead... a zombie ... fodder ... fertilizer ... entertainment for those who "farm" you.

ALL THIS IS THE TRUTH in the reality of this physical plane.

Congratulations

Vamp... This is exactly what our founding fathers were trying to avoid.
Already secret militias are forming. The evil coming down is tremendous.

I'm not going to sit here and say there is a solution. Just yet. I will say that as much as is being stolen from everyone... You must give as much back as God trusts you with. 10%... far less than our government requires... BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW.

I love that one... IT IS THE LAW!

Vamp, It is good to hear you kicking. I'm going to pursue the most law abiding peaceful solutions possible. I am amazed at the lack of understanding of ALL THE THREATS AND ATTACKS ON FREEDOM.

I'm kinda shocked at watching Sotty coming unraveled over his INET attack.

I like every one up here... This is actually a safe place to disagree with some good thinkers.

Thanks Vamp. Your post's are appreciated!!!!!

... Glenny ... your Posts are most appreciated. Yes ... our founding Fathers did everything they could possibly do and foresee to avoid this Great Evil which is now upon us. And may I ay across the space of time that they were brilliant and could not have possibly done a better job. No one could have ... their genius still and will always shine forth through the dullness of time.

Un fortunately there is no way that anything could be done to accomodate for nor anticipate the Evil that has transpired. The blame for all this lies not upon the broad and tried shoulders of those who forged the Constitution. The blame lies upon hose before us ... those who spoiled their children, were not dilligent enough and who relaxed their guard allowing the cancer of corruption to seep into every crevice of their lives. This die was cast even before you and I ever emerged from our Mother's wombs .

But also the lame sits upon all who have been neutered and zombiefied as well. The drugged, the poisoned, the obese, the greedy and most of all the fearful . Those who embrace this madness... those who are "trained" ... domesticated, greedy and most of all fearful . Those who embrace this madness ... those who are trained, ... domesticated ... labotimized... dumbed down. They and those who have allowed all this to happen and spread necrotizing Freedom and what all those who died defended. We also share some guilt for ignoring, tolerating., sleeping and hoping that others would solve the problem, fight the fight and make the sacrifice.

But we have been reawakened and that is as it should be and we do what must be done regardless. Yes we shall die but not today or tonight or tommorrow. In the meantime we shall be true to our Forefathers, our Ancestors, our species. We know our hearts n
and what is right more to follow...

To truly understand our dilemma we first have to recognize that the deception is not that of government officials (Our employees) deceiving us, rather it is the government officials who are deceived.

We fight against spiritual principalities and powers, not against the will of the deceived.

...We will die withthe flame of FREEDOM and LIBERTY burning brightly in our being. We are not afraid to speak out and by virtue of doing so demonstrate we are not afraid of death for such a worthy cause ... rather we welcome it. Ridicule and mocking do not inimidate us and percieved overwhelming odds are insignificant because we know we are Noble, Honourable and that we have Truth as our shields. We know that now there is really only one solution remaining and therefore it is not necessary to even speak of it. The "Law" is not manmade, even Crowley recognized that. We must do what we can to give the lost purpose and make those who forsake themselves and others accountable.

The world is in growing chaos now and most of it is created by man ... but very soon Nature will demonstrate the insignificance of any manmade chaos.

Those who percieve themselves a "comfortable" will soon become very uncomfortable. Those who think they are middle-class will very soon discover that they are really only serfs and livestock.

Musicians are Creators if they are true to what they are and this does not have any boundary in their lives ... if it does then they are not truly Musicians/Creators/Artists or Warriors ... are they ?

You and I are of the same ilk as are many upon this site ... some even who have not yet spoken and that is good. One day I hope to meet you and possibly some of the others here ... share a fire ...quaff some good drink ... feast and speak ... perhaps fight ... perhaps die. This would be fullfillment enough until the next Circle.

I have not begun to "kick" for I was "agrippa". Since I have faced death a few times and never have I been afraid only enraged, shocked or broken in body but not in Spirit and never hopeless ... then I have perspective. We are friends.

Slacker ..I thank you so much again for your words of wisdom. I am in complete agreement with your conclusions ... they are the decieved ones.

"We fight against Spiritual Principalities and Powers, not against the will ,of the decieved" What a great statement worthy of being carved in stone.

Has anyone else been bothered by the spews media constantly televising the "baby pic" of the surviving brother? Playing for sympathy, obviously.

So why?

I have a much bigger problem than sympathy towards the attackers...

The media, as a whole, even the most trusted sites- all spewed non-facts and conjecture as facts early on. First they said it was terrorists, then they put images of a teen and adult 'persons of interest' strongly suggesting they were responsible, and additionally they delved into their middle-eastern roots and played on the hatred of their origins, whipping up yet another frenzy of fear based on complete nonsense.

This is in itself the very definition of terrorism- to instill fear on a population. This is our media, all of it.

The worst part? They won't even print apologies, retractions, or anything. They aren't sorry that they ruined the lives of two innocent people, or terrorized the nation.

It's inexcusable, and appalling.

...Kramer ... True words and I thank you. The so-called "mass media" are all owned, controlled and told what to do by a very select and depraved few. There is no longer anything on the Intrnet as a "trusted site". The Keystone Cop Performance at the Boston Marathon and yesterday in Oakland clearly demonstrates the madness of it all.

Keep the "livestock" "busy" and add a touch of chaos and a grand helping of fear and lies to the fetid pot and use the "media" to tell everyone what to think, debate, look up, who to hate and which lies to believe. It all works now so well so why should they apologize ???

You are the minority ... one of those "thinkers" ... one who has a family and cares about them more than gold ??? a nonconformist ... a noncitizen and true patriot, a pox ... a danger ... mentally unstable ... believing in archaic and long forgotten words that have no place in this "modern world of lies" with it's "modern values". On top of all this you are outspoken, engaging, a musician and human.

Kramer much of what you state I agree with ... some I do not know enough about, but your Posts here and on the other threads are worthy of serious consideration to any.

Vamp, much of it you don't need more than a 1-st graders education to understand. confusion is their ally, and when you wipe away the rhetoric, all that is left is the 'great game', where the elite sit on the sidelines and make gains at the expense of everyone in the arena.

Mr. Kramer

You are quite right. I also don't hear any apologies from those costumed clowns who were playing, pathetically poorly, as soldiers. They roughed up their employers, screamed and yelled and pointed guns at the innocent and then shot up at least two neighborhoods in their incompetent attempt to 'protect' the people of Boston.

They should apologize - individually to each person they abused. Then be banned from owning guns or wearing badges for ever and ever.

Peace officers exist to protect people from criminals who are essentially, bullies. When peace officers act like bullies - they are at that point, criminals. What's worse, in Boston, they are pretty much like the gangs and organized crime in Chicago - they have the guns, the politicians and even a lot of dummies who lick their boots. But they are most definitely NOT the good guys anymore.

And please, nobody give me that crap that I can't know what they were going through. I have, and I can. I'd have shot myself long ago if I had ever conducted myself like that. A self administered round is such a man's last hope of restoring his honor.

Talbot