General Music Chat

As long as the cheerleaders wear the usual skimpy outfits, who cares?

Kramer as smart as you are I don't see how you can say your not taking sides. Every position you take in these debates is so far to the left it seems your gonna fall off the edge of the world. You are in denial bro. Some of the examples you use sound like something Nancy Pelosi would come up with! I know your a good guy you have been so indoctrinated by the views of the liberal groups around you. Yet you turn around and blame other folks for how bad you have it. When YOU libs are the ones making the rules.

Simply not true.

There is no right or left, it's all an illusion. Your hatred of the left and all things you deem left is proof that the illusion works. I've had this discussion with you before, and I thought we had an understanding about your accusations against my motives. There is only good and bad. Sure, there's an in-between, but for the sake of argument, good and bad works..

You either help someone or you don't. You either look inward, or outward. Dancing on the line and putting your judgments and conditions before your actions only means you are inward, greedy, and corrupted by your own shortsightedness.

"Left"? It's just a label anymore, used to demonize and attack. I'm of the position that all democrats and republicans are corrupted and foul. They work for the same people, and that's a fact. Your ideal of left and right are manufactured, for they are but one and the same. And when you truly look at them, what they accomplish both together and apart, you will someday realize that they are completely corrupted, evil, and have nothing but guile and insatiable greed.

You've been playing for the wrong team. There is no right team, there is no win. They got you playing the wrong game- and somehow convinced you that your team is winning, or will win. Americans are consumed by winning against the "other side", at any cost. They have all failed to realize that they've been duped.

You can't convince anyone today that is the truth. People have been taught to form sponsored opinions and convert those opinions to beliefs. People are incapable of changing their core beliefs. You, we, they.. all hooked. All hopeless.

Somehow, I don't know why.. I'm different. I see it all as the farce it is.

I've concluded that america, in general, can't be helped or saved. It will crash and burn from it's own arrogance and ignorance. I refuse to participate in right vs left anymore. I will sit idly by, watch it crash and burn, and hopefully be more effective (or dead) in the rebuilding process, of there even is one.

Kramer. I don't hate ANYONE! I dislike and am ACTUALLY realistic about whats going on in the world. Liberals for the most part are not living in the real world. Case and point, conservatives want fiscal responsibility while liberals want to add as much PORK to everybill and spend (give) this country into bankruptcy. When a conservative wants Ya'll to be realistic and hold you to your word WE are the bad guys! See YOD's post about how you guys DEMONIZED Sara Palin for NO REASON other than YOU WERE AFRAID she would win! No left or right BULLSH!T! You can pretend all you want but that doesn't make it a fact. Sure both sides have their agenda I just prefer the agenda that strengthens this nation both financially and militarily because the WHOLE WORLD HATES OUR @SS'S. The discord is even being indoctrinated from the federal level into our schools here in Texas. The curriculum teaches Islam and denies christianity. I do not want to force my beliefs on ANYONE! God knows I am FAR from being a good christian. That won't stop me from trying! Our identity as Americans is being wiped from the face of this country by cynicism and hatred toward the people that made this country strong and it is being done from within by LIBERALS whom HATE what they are and are STUPID enough to believe folks that HATE their @ss would even kill them if they could behind their back. To your face they are all nice and convincing liberals that they are good!

Jeff,
both sides add an amazing amount of pork to every bill. It's not just the left. You should know better.

Regarding palin, she was a frothing idiot, and mccain could have dropped dead of old age at any moment, so it wasn't a stretch to believe that you would be voting for her, not him, as prez. Even moderates on the right didn't want that, but again, it's all a dog and pony show.. none of it matters or mattered. They've got you all tripped up on the wedge issues, keeping your attention diverted from the reality.

The whole world hates us for a reason. It should be evident, and I'm frankly not interested anymore- we're doomed. We doomed ourselves. It's fixable, but nobody is interested in that, or willing to really fix it- All fixes to our problems result in very very wealthy and powerful people losing both - and the health of society and the human race isn't even important because they care only for themselves and nobody else. They see the downfall coming long after they are dead- somebody else's problem. This has been going on for generations.

Can you name one public school in texas that teaches islam and denies christianity? One? It's just not true. If you are talking about that false story that circulated last week, an investigation already showed that the school in question was actually doing the opposite... do your homework. Repeating false propaganda won't make it true.

And again, here we are. Doomed. I've done the math.

Grandpa once said:
"Get the facts! How in the hell are you going to make a good decision without the facts?!"

In america, there are no more facts, only propaganda. Repeated ad-neaseum until nobody can even figure out the truth.

Everything you believe in your heart Jeff, all of it, is propaganda and nonsense. You are spreading it like a disease. It's too late anyways. Like I said, we are doomed. We deserve it too.

Regarding palin, she was a frothing idiot....

speaking on behalf of my fellow frothing idiots...i deeply resent being compared to palin.

Regarding palin, she was a frothing idiot....

speaking on behalf of my fellow frothing idiots...i deeply resent being compared to palin.

I understand, I take it back. We might have to just refer to her as "she who must not be named"

Regarding palin, she was a frothing idiot....

speaking on behalf of my fellow frothing idiots...i deeply resent being compared to palin.

I understand, I take it back. We might have to just refer to her as "she who must not be named"

not bad i's suggest we make that "she who must not be named to any political position".

Never mind. I'm speaking to the closed minded. Two more libs hating on Palin for NO GOOD REASON! go ahead get the last word in. I'm not going to waste my time!

I didn't bring her into this, I couldn't care less about her.

Never mind. I'm speaking to the closed minded. Two more libs hating on Palin for NO GOOD REASON! go ahead get the last word in. I'm not going to waste my time!

yeah, "no good reason"....other than her being totally incompetent, self serving, self promoting, dumber than a box of rocks, and best of all a QUITTER who left her post to chase the big bucks.

yeah...now THAT'S someone who I want to see in office. someone who doesn't even have the spine and conviction to finish their term of office.

someone cue the palinbeciles to regurgitate that ridiculous BS about her leaving her post because she believed she could do more good for her country in other capacities! whatta laughable crock of horseshit.

she's a gold digging, spineless, quitter...plain and simple.

Come on Mark. That was a bunch of cheap shots... This is the first time I've seen you do that, when you are not backing it up with any supporting evidence other than your own conjecture.

SORRY... Thats not exactly true.

how are they cheap shots?

did she NOT leave her office before her term ended?

has she not demonstrated time and time again her lack of understanding of geography, american history, current events, the constitution, and said one goofy thing after another?

do you not believe she abandoned her post before the end of her watch to chase the big bucks? (i mean, who does THAT... but a spineless money grubber???)

if you don't believe any of that....fine. i do.
soooo, when has expressing our views and opinions about any politician been deemed to be nothing more than "cheap shots"????

i musta missed the memo.

some of palin's greatest hits.
(aviso: make sure you don't have any liquids in your mouth when watching)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

some of palin's greatest hits.
(aviso: make sure you don't have any liquids in your mouth when watching)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

Out side of the cut and paste job at the beginning... Outside of the fact that much of the reporting was just asking biased questions in a method of dis- accredation. Actually the only proof that was presented was that the media is brutal, biased, and that she wasn't prepared for that onslaught.
Even worse is the fact that Mccain was almost apologizing to Obama for running against him. Last November I witnessed the same thing against Romney.

I'm not a paranoid conspiracy theorist. I'm also as smart as you Mark.

You want to explain what is going on... before you just go and throw more media Binkle Shinkle on the fire.

how are they cheap shots?

did she NOT leave her office before her term ended?

Yes, and do you not know why?

Obama, completely funded by Soros' puppet media, launched "lawfare" (a term they coined meaning warfare with lawyers) and the State of Alaska was having to foot the bill, not to mention Palin was so busy answering to false accusations that it kept her from focusing on the job.

So for her and for the State of Alaska, it was the only strategy to end the lawfare.

has she not demonstrated time and time again her lack of understanding of geography, american history, current events, the constitution, and said one goofy thing after another?

Now there's the pot calling the kettle black.


Do you think she could tell us how many states there are in the USA? Our current President thinks there are 57


There are 57 Islamic states....maybe that's what he was referring to have visited on the campaign trail?

do you not believe she abandoned her post before the end of her watch to chase the big bucks? (i mean, who does THAT... but a spineless money grubber???)

No, I think it's clear that she was making a shred move politically to end the heat brought on her by the entire Soros media...but I do believe you swallowed the propoganda they issued hook, line, & sinker.