General Music Chat

Sell your soul John, just go down to the crossroads at midnight tonight. Me, I wouldn't want to be them for any amount of money. I guess it's his voice that's so irritating to me; that and all the MILFs that think he's hot. Airheads!

Well Jimmy to each his own and I dont really think it has anything to do with my soul, I just like the way they sound.

I'm always surprised when singers like Clarkson make it big. Sure, I'm not a big fan of contemporary country music, but I hear these people and have to wonder.."with this person's singing ability (or lack thereof).....could they EVER possibly make it in ANY other genre?". And the answer is usually "no".

As for Nickelbutt....puh-leeez!

Thanks Peg, I thought for a minute there I was taking crazy pills.

Thanks Peg, I thought for a minute there I was taking crazy pills.

And who do you think you've convinced you're not?????

Unlike some others around these parts...at least you need PILLS for your craziness!

LOL, maybe its my crazy pills that make me like Nicklebutt, but I still like them!

The thing i agreed with, when it came to my son's girlfriend,
she used to say,
" I never tell people what music I like or don't like, it's way too personal and you know how people are when they get hold of things that don't belong to them"

Im pretty thick skinned and if I like something Im not afraid to admit it, just because someone else doesnt like it doesnt really matter now does it?

Some people like diet drinks, some people like lite beer

same thing just personal taste

Besides I take pills to keep me from getting worked up over what music you or I cant agree on!

just because someone else doesnt like it doesnt really matter now does it?
!

not in the slightest

JW: " Bands in the 60s and 70s only a very limited amount of TV time avaiable, but these days these shows really bring out some interesting artist to me. I know I couldnt personally go thru the process they go thru."

The thang is... The 60'/70's artists will all tell you that TV was not really a good vehicle . Back then it was still all about making the radio...

And back then, the challenge was basically limited to how to creatively a song could fill in dead air time (enter Broadcasting Ads, and songs).

On the advent of MTV, everything geared itself toward visual production, and suddenly, songs took 2nd seat in the overall package.

As subsequent history reveals.... It went down the toilet from there..
Today, we have Clarkson, butting heads with a guy, who not only understands the difference bretween radio and TV, but actually carved a path for both radio and TV successes... (I think he staunchly believes in the old radio methods...right behind the newer revenue making methods LOL!)

Paper you read up on any of the older bands and the significance of getting on say the Ed Sullivan show, it boosted the hell out of thier record sales.

MTV did the same thing, I read where David Coverdale said they got more exposure which transmitted to album sales for Whitesnake by being in rotation on MTV than they would have gotten touring a full year.

Paper you read up on any of the older bands and the significance of getting on say the Ed Sullivan show, it boosted the hell out of thier record sales.

MTV did the same thing, I read where David Coverdale said they got more exposure which transmitted to album sales for Whitesnake by being in rotation on MTV than they would have gotten touring a full year.

yep....and don't forget Midnight Special and Don Kirschner's rock concert.

Paper you read up on any of the older bands and the significance of getting on say the Ed Sullivan show, it boosted the hell out of thier record sales.

MTV did the same thing, I read where David Coverdale said they got more exposure which transmitted to album sales for Whitesnake by being in rotation on MTV than they would have gotten touring a full year.

Well... yes and no... There were certain shows: I.e Ed Sulivan, Jack Par (and even Ted Mack, Johnny Carson) , which were deemed gateway shows. If you made it on those, the advertisers endorsed the affiliated radio stations with stipulations that their brands be associated with those acts...and such. To get to those shows, you really had to be special and very good. Those shows were not slave to any particular style of genre. You could say they were the Ellis Islands of performing arts.

So yes as a one shot deal, Ed Sullivan could temporarily send sales through the roof. It said that the acts were world class (and that's the pitch they used)


MTV pretty much abandoned the old brand of quality control in favor of television /Network production models (for obvious reasons). It necessarily meant the killing off of any old school music (in terms of 'art") to make room for innovative music in terms of Bandwidth signal, technical replication and other electronics what-nots. So in one sense, sales records reall depends on who you talk to.

Rememember Simon and Garfunkle? Nowhere to be found on MTV. (Though MTV did try, I think)
Bob Dylan? None to be found (But he still had great sales for a while)

MTV brought metal forward I think, better than any other genre. (or at least it seems that metal lasted the longest. And Because it dominated the Networks, Metal became the new priesthood of Rock. Every derivitive thereafter ensued...

While TV today helps boost sales. It does not necessarily mean that its pushing world class material. and it seems that a band only lasts about 2-3 years before those sales drop like a bad habit.

I sat up and watched those, but the prime time shows were what everyone wanted to be on.

Someone like the Stones or the Beatles were all over the radio, but they would do anything to get on the Sullivan show, heck the stones would even change the lyrics, something the doors wouldnt do, so they only did the show once

I sat up and watched those, but the prime time shows were what everyone wanted to be on.

Someone like the Stones or the Beatles were all over the radio, but they would do anything to get on the Sullivan show, heck the stones would even change the lyrics, something the doors wouldnt do, so they only did the show once

You'd be surpised how amny artists werr asked to change their lyrics... I read somehwere that Johnny cash was asked to change lyrics at his show in Folsom Prison... Man, talk about censorship...