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#205045 by GuitarMikeB
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:48 pm
Peg Lautny wrote:I was expecting more from Mumford and Sons. I dunno, they're ok I guess but I heard no melody or counter melodies from the instruments. Just everyone kinda just "stumming" along. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

I like a good vocal as much as anyone but the same three or four chords "strummed" over and over doesn't really hold my interest very long.

And I think that's the problem with much of the stuff that's popular now. It's one thing that there isn't a solo (and that's ok....I get that not every song NEEDS a solo) but please, I've got to hear something going on melodically from the instruments besides boring "play the changes" backup.


I'm glad I'm not the only noticing this same issue with 90% of the *new* music out there.

#205046 by J-HALEY
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:50 pm
yod wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote: I can never forget reading Hammer of The Gods and thinking about the refusal of John Paul Jones to sign in blood the contract with Satan that would bring riches and fame and everything else considered a "successful" music career..




Haven't read that book, but I find that interesting since JPJ is the one member of Zep who is most clearly "signed to satan".

Have you ever seen Diamanda Galas, whom he collaborated with? I don't think I've ever seen a more demonic act in my life. She has multiple voices coming out of her when she sings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AIjnQ8t30



This one, "The Litanies of Satan" will curdle your spine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th1hLNoOjn4



.


Okay that was just.....weird! In fact it's so weird it made me LAUGH HYSTERICALLY :lol:

#205047 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:51 pm
PaperDog wrote:
yod wrote:We can see the gross conflict of interest this presents.
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Yes, and really every award ceremony suffers this. There are a few people competing against each other and their supporters and/or fans are the only ones allowed to vote.

It's the same whether we're talking Grammy's or the local PTA.

But the grammies are more fun to laugh at.

#205049 by gtZip
Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:54 pm
yod wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote: I can never forget reading Hammer of The Gods and thinking about the refusal of John Paul Jones to sign in blood the contract with Satan that would bring riches and fame and everything else considered a "successful" music career..




Haven't read that book, but I find that interesting since JPJ is the one member of Zep who is most clearly "signed to satan".

Have you ever seen Diamanda Galas, whom he collaborated with? I don't think I've ever seen a more demonic act in my life. She has multiple voices coming out of her when she sings.


This one, "The Litanies of Satan" will curdle your spine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th1hLNoOjn4



.



That's pretty cool

#205055 by gbheil
Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:13 pm
An industry giving itself awards.

Reminds me of some cheesy porn I saw as a teenager where this guy on an airplane was giving himself a blow job.

Whatever . . .

#205067 by Kramerguy
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:02 pm
yod wrote:
Dane Ellis Allen wrote: I can never forget reading Hammer of The Gods and thinking about the refusal of John Paul Jones to sign in blood the contract with Satan that would bring riches and fame and everything else considered a "successful" music career..




Haven't read that book, but I find that interesting since JPJ is the one member of Zep who is most clearly "signed to satan".

Have you ever seen Diamanda Galas, whom he collaborated with? I don't think I've ever seen a more demonic act in my life. She has multiple voices coming out of her when she sings.


This one, "The Litanies of Satan" will curdle your spine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th1hLNoOjn4



.


LOL great stuff haha, at least for comedy..

I like the one comment on youtube, "does she go as herself for halloween?" HAHAHA

Clearly she's using an arsenal of effects to get her voice to do that, along with some creative octave changes.. even our mixer can do that- we sometimes dial it to "satan voice" and have fun with it.. I'm shocked anyone took her seriously to be honest

#205068 by Kramerguy
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:09 pm
So what I don't get here is the consistent badgering of the awards and the newer music-

C'mon guys, dontcha think you are showing your age a bit ? Who cares about the grammy's or any other awards ceremonies? Jethro tull won metal album of the year- I think we all figured out it was a joke.

But today's music is so much better than anything since the 80's in my opinion. There's a LOT of really great bands out there, finally doing craftier melodies and arrangements than we've seen in almost two decades. While much of it IS still pop, at least it's not the cookie-cutter crap we've been subjected to in years past, like AVRIL, MILEY, BRITTANY, and the worst ROCK in history from groups like NICKELBACK, CREED, LINKIN PARK, OFFSPRING, and so many more...

Yeah, there's always going to be crap bands and corporate moneymakers, but there is a circle of life in music, and I strongly believe we're on the upswing.. I'm lovin today's music.. I can't believe most of you can't let go of classic rock and move on...

#205069 by gtZip
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:14 pm
What I see is the trendy coffee shop acoustic guitar crooners of the past 5 to 10 years emerging as the new 'Rock' bands.
Where's the fire?
Where's your balls??

#205071 by Kramerguy
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:22 pm
According to the grammy's (LOL)

Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance
Anthrax, ‘I’m Alive’
Halestorm, ‘Love Bites (So Do I)’
Iron Maiden, ‘Blood Brothers’
Lamb of God, ‘Ghost Walking’
Marilyn Manson, ‘No Reflection’
Megadeth, ‘Whose Life (Is It Anyways?)’

They seem to have missed Paramore, Deftones.. But I think my statement on Jethro tull kinda put that dog down.

#205072 by Kramerguy
Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:34 pm
gtZip wrote:What I see is the trendy coffee shop acoustic guitar crooners of the past 5 to 10 years emerging as the new 'Rock' bands.
Where's the fire?
Where's your balls??


Coffee shop?? Hell, Queen had far more "pussie" songs than Ballsy ones.. Zep mixed poppy and slow music as well. You want system of a down or something? Here's some great music that isn't just coffee shop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yCIDkFI7ew Black Keys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqxI7TI5ji0 (imagine dragons)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog MUSE (admittedly 3 years old now, but it's what is shaping new stuff today!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLek4aSpbo Grouplove

#205078 by gbheil
Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:14 pm
Kramerguy wrote:So what I don't get here is the consistent badgering of the awards and the newer music-

C'mon guys, dontcha think you are showing your age a bit ? Who cares about the grammy's or any other awards ceremonies? Jethro tull won metal album of the year- I think we all figured out it was a joke.

But today's music is so much better than anything since the 80's in my opinion. There's a LOT of really great bands out there, finally doing craftier melodies and arrangements than we've seen in almost two decades. While much of it IS still pop, at least it's not the cookie-cutter crap we've been subjected to in years past, like AVRIL, MILEY, BRITTANY, and the worst ROCK in history from groups like NICKELBACK, CREED, LINKIN PARK, OFFSPRING, and so many more...

Yeah, there's always going to be crap bands and corporate moneymakers, but there is a circle of life in music, and I strongly believe we're on the upswing.. I'm lovin today's music.. I can't believe most of you can't let go of classic rock and move on...



The answer is simple.
It is for the greatest part soulless drivel written and performed by the same.

#205080 by MikeTalbot
Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:26 pm
Yod

Thanks, I think, for the creepy reminder that some folks just plain choose the other side - whew...

Most who reject God, reject Him in ignorance. But someone like this speciman; that's a choice made in full knowledge of the potential consequences.

I don't get it? What do they expect to gain? Apparently these freaks at least, get it that Hell is not exactly Cancun! Yet they still play for the other side. That creeps me out.

Talbot

#205089 by Mike Nobody
Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:57 am
MikeTalbot wrote:Yod

Thanks, I think, for the creepy reminder that some folks just plain choose the other side - whew...

Most who reject God, reject Him in ignorance. But someone like this speciman; that's a choice made in full knowledge of the potential consequences.

I don't get it? What do they expect to gain? Apparently these freaks at least, get it that Hell is not exactly Cancun! Yet they still play for the other side. That creeps me out.

Talbot


Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be
http://youtu.be/77TOYSiIoMI


(...and Bon Scott should know!)


Anton Lavey Plays "A Big Top Medley"
http://youtu.be/V1EXeurb4lI

#205091 by PaperDog
Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:08 am
Peg Lautny wrote:I was expecting more from Mumford and Sons. I dunno, they're ok I guess but I heard no melody or counter melodies from the instruments. Just everyone kinda just "stumming" along. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

I like a good vocal as much as anyone but the same three or four chords "strummed" over and over doesn't really hold my interest very long.

And I think that's the problem with much of the stuff that's popular now. It's one thing that there isn't a solo (and that's ok....I get that not every song NEEDS a solo) but please, I've got to hear something going on melodically from the instruments besides boring "play the changes" backup.


Its very difficult to compose something that pleases the majority. Aside from that, in my most creative hours, i have discovered that the extent of my love, sadness or excitement...can usually be captured in 3 or 4 chord progressions... (sigh)... (Start that one in Dm)

#205096 by gtZip
Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:01 am
Kramerguy wrote:
gtZip wrote:What I see is the trendy coffee shop acoustic guitar crooners of the past 5 to 10 years emerging as the new 'Rock' bands.
Where's the fire?
Where's your balls??


Coffee shop?? Hell, Queen had far more "pussie" songs than Ballsy ones.. Zep mixed poppy and slow music as well. You want system of a down or something? Here's some great music that isn't just coffee shop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yCIDkFI7ew Black Keys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqxI7TI5ji0 (imagine dragons)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog MUSE (admittedly 3 years old now, but it's what is shaping new stuff today!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCLek4aSpbo Grouplove


Zep weren't BREAD.
Mumford, Grouplove, imagine dragons, Fun - All shite pu**y rock.
Muse is ok.

A lot of acoustic guitar, or electric that mimics acoustic guitar. A lot of keys.

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