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#203817 by Mike Nobody
Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:46 am
Really?
Nothing has EVER pissed you off like this?

None of the lies about 9/11, leading America into illegal wars, killing millions of innocent people, robbing us of our civil liberties?

THAT hasn't pissed you off?

#203818 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:03 am
Mike Nobody wrote:Really?
Nothing has EVER pissed you off like this?

None of the lies about 9/11, leading America into illegal wars, killing millions of innocent people, robbing us of our civil liberties?

THAT hasn't pissed you off?


I love ya Mikey but you are a WHAKO! :wink:
#203826 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:14 pm
Joel Clyde wrote:Don't let it get to you. The story is a Hoax.

There were several things that could've been done. They could've docked at the International Space Station, got out and inspected the thermal shielding before re-entry, and if there was a problem, they could've stayed there until another shuttle could be launched to pick them up. Or, they could've stayed in orbit until a rescue mission could be mounted with another shuttle (yes, extra air, maneuvering fuel, and supplies could've been supplied by smaller, unmanned rockets, etc..), It never occurred to anyone beforehand that the flying object briefly seen on liftoff was a piece of thermal insulation. It was a human oversight.

Why do you think they would've just allowed a several billion-dollar spacecraft, and even more expensive crewmembers to die? It was a preventable, and regrettable error by Mission Control.

J-HALEY wrote:http://www.click2houston.com/news/Ex-employee-NASA-knew-about-possible-problem-on-Columbia/-/1735978/18361090/-/kx63x7/-/index.html


When they first started reporting the cause I said the same thing. They saw the foam come off and strike the orbiter so why didn't they go to the space station and check for damage? They just ignored the problem hoping it would be a turn around issue. Hopefully they won't become so complacent in the future! :roll:
#203829 by Kramerguy
Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:00 pm
J-HALEY wrote:
Joel Clyde wrote:Don't let it get to you. The story is a Hoax.

There were several things that could've been done. They could've docked at the International Space Station, got out and inspected the thermal shielding before re-entry, and if there was a problem, they could've stayed there until another shuttle could be launched to pick them up. Or, they could've stayed in orbit until a rescue mission could be mounted with another shuttle (yes, extra air, maneuvering fuel, and supplies could've been supplied by smaller, unmanned rockets, etc..), It never occurred to anyone beforehand that the flying object briefly seen on liftoff was a piece of thermal insulation. It was a human oversight.

Why do you think they would've just allowed a several billion-dollar spacecraft, and even more expensive crewmembers to die? It was a preventable, and regrettable error by Mission Control.

J-HALEY wrote:http://www.click2houston.com/news/Ex-employee-NASA-knew-about-possible-problem-on-Columbia/-/1735978/18361090/-/kx63x7/-/index.html


When they first started reporting the cause I said the same thing. They saw the foam come off and strike the orbiter so why didn't they go to the space station and check for damage? They just ignored the problem hoping it would be a turn around issue. Hopefully they won't become so complacent in the future! :roll:


I believe at the time, the official line was that they just didn't believe that a couple of tiles would have any impact at all, much less a disastrous one-

Sure, it was a hard lesson to learn, we all can agree that maybe someone should have thought about more, but in this case, I think it was just hindsight being 20/20.

I'm sure when/if we begin interstellar travel and bigger / better space stations, that we will find there are variables and issues that we just didn't account for by either not knowing, or where the science indicated a lower threshold. I'm sure there will be future disasters, and we will most certainly be humbled several times on our path to progress.

In this case, I'm betting we NEVER underestimate the importance of heat tiles again. So if anything, it's a lesson learned. Hard lesson for sure.

#203839 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:48 pm
The space program and Nasa are important to me because I have been around it my whole life! I live in a neighborhood filled with Nasa engineers, they live across the street and on both sides of me. I work with engineers of all disciplines all day. I have worked on astronauts homes, business's, offices, and classrooms! No one made me watch the apollo missions I eagerly watched them like a wide eye'd child on Christmas morning. In fact my mom had to turn the t.v. off and make me go to bed during the moon landing's! Todays aniversary of the Columbia disaster has some meaning to me and this article of news has been all over the place for the last couple of days!

#203842 by J-HALEY
Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:01 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Funny you didn't comment on my post on Monday regarding the Challenger.

http://forum.bandmix.com/viewtopic.php? ... challenger


I know this is hard to believe, sometimes I am speechless :lol: . I read most comments on that post. For the record I was building townhomes in southwest houston (framing). I was up walking plate and nailing rafters in place. The G.C. came by told us to take a break and changed the radio to the news and we listened for a while then went back to work!

#203844 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:16 pm
For the Columbia accident I was sweeping the kitchen floor getting ready to mop it as I do every Saturday morning. I also remember the Apollo 1 fire in 1967. NASA has had its share of bad news.

#203852 by gbheil
Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:32 pm
sh*t happens . . .
We are not at the helm.

#203855 by fisherman bob
Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:40 pm
We need to quit screwing around in space and fix problems on Earth.

#203858 by gbheil
Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:46 pm
fisherman bob wrote:We need to quit screwing around in space and fix problems on Earth.


I'd agree with this in part Bob. But the space programs have been directly and indirectly responsible for huge jumps in technology through the research opportunities provided as well as the unique challenges of space travel.
Technology that has improved medical technique dramatically in the last 20 years.

There is no profit in any realm of humanity without investment.

#203861 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:21 pm
"Screwing around in space" may very well lead to solutions to problems we face here on earth. The fact is that unless we can live permanently other places than here we are probably doomed. It's hard to think about your children's children's children when you're having a tough time making it, but you really must.

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