General Music Chat

Mike, have you ever heard of buying INSURANCE to insure yourself from a catastrophic event? .. do you think I like paying for homeowner's insurance for years? .. if the money was going towards rebuilding infrastructure like roads and schools etc. then I'm for that.. but a bailout to PRIVATE PROPERTY owners that refused to buy insurance to cover their losses? ..come on mike

Mike, have you ever heard of buying INSURANCE to insure yourself from a catastrophic event? .. do you think I like paying for homeowner's insurance for years? .. if the money was going towards rebuilding infrastructure like roads and schools etc. then I'm for that.. but a bailout to PRIVATE PROPERTY owners that refused to buy insurance to cover their losses? ..come on mike

I don't know all the details and neither do any of you.
But, if people are starving and homeless it is our obligation AS HUMAN F*CKING BEINGS to see that help arrives.
Bitching about every penny stolen by the government to keep our bloated military industrial complex afloat just totally misses the point, IMO.
End the wars.
Problem solved.
You'll save a bundle.
But read what Dwight Eisenhower said about this:

“Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.... Is there no other way the world may live?”

― Dwight D. Eisenhower

mike, having a strong military is a form of INSURANCE too, yes, insurance is costly especially if you never file a claim.. but it's a necessity, I love not worrying about Chinese and Russian bombers flying overhead, because I'm "insured" with a state of the art industrial-military complex

mike, having a strong military is a form of INSURANCE too, yes, insurance is costly especially if you never file a claim.. but it's a necessity, I love not worrying about Chinese and Russian bombers flying overhead, because I'm "insured" with a state of the art industrial-military complex

Sorry.
A war-hero president who defeated the Nazis and stood up to the commies in the cold war has a better argument than you.

maybe moving to a third world country in Central America is the answer to the injustice of being an American/ U.S. citizen? there armies are small, and why would you need protection from the crime gangs that roam around down there? .. I've been following John McAfee Blog and it spins a tangled web about corruption.. no checks and balances at all .. but won't have to worry about what a B-52 equates to in bushels of wheat either...

maybe moving to a third world country in Central America is the answer to the injustice of being an American/ U.S. citizen? there armies are small, and why would you need protection from the crime gangs that roam around down there? .. I've been following John McAfee Blog and it spins a tangled web about corruption.. no checks and balances at all .. but won't have to worry about what a B-52 equates to in bushels of wheat either...

If you want to live in a banana republic, why don't YOU go move to one?

Great! Glad that they finally caved to the political pressure.


More piles of money for the area politicians and their cronies, and a couple of bucks for the folks living there.

It's the government way.

MikeN

I'll make you a deal. You shoot the damned republicans (you'll feel much better), I'll shoot the damned democrats. (a big job but it needs doing)

Then after a couple drinks and a quick break, we'll team up and slaughter the damned banksters.

Finally, we'll burn Washington DC and Wall St. to the ground and sow salt on the ruins.

That should certainly put an end to a lot of the fussing that goes on around here.

Talbot

I'll take the bankers...

lol

"lock and load"

I know my opinion is not a popular one. But I don't feel it's the governments place to go about double dipping borrowed money to "aid" and one particular group, disaster or no.

It's my understanding that a great deal of "aid" was refused by state governments due to political ideology differences.
As well as being "redirected" into areas of "wealth and persuasion" instead of being duly metered out to all those in need.

Another issue that should warrant reconsideration by our northern brethren.
If indeed all this is true.

So, we should shut down FEMA and the Army Core of Engineers?

I think if you really contemplate that question you will realize that those agencies are designed to be supportive of universal needs.
Not a specific economic response directed at a small group of individuals.
Your not an idiot , your capable of discerning the difference.

I'm honestly trying to discern the logic and understand your sentiments

So, in trying to figure that out, let me ask- Wouldn't a local small-town fire department fall under that description of "response directed at a small group of individuals"?

How would hurricane relief be any different than putting out the flames engulfing an individual home, or even an 8-unit apartment building?

WRONG! you PAY for fire and police protection by paying LOCAL PROPERTY TAX and REAL ESTATE TAX.. I just paid mine .. but if I have need of the volunteer fire dept. that will be another fee added on top..
Outside the cost and scale, the two are the same, are they not?

I've only heard of one district where the fire dept charges you additional fees after putting your house out.

The federal taxes we pay cover the federal assistance administered. It's really the same thing. Different scale, different tax, different assistance, but all ultimately the same concept. How hard is this to understand?

please check Polk County Missouri then..thank-you..

may be true, i'll take your word for it.

Doesn't change the thought process tho-

While we're at it, public libraries and national forests are also stupid entitlements "the people" are apprently too lazy to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and buy their own 350,000 acre forest, jeez. lazy louts.

The reason they didn't pass the sandy bill is because the democrats loaded the 60 billion dollar bill with PORK! Approx. 30 billion half of it is pork! Sorry that the Dems are holding your aid hostage by wanting to take YOUR money and throw it away on things that don't benefit the cause of helping Sandy victims! The President stood right in front of Chris Christy and said HE would cut the red tape Ya'll had to have seen that on the News? Then he went on Vacation while Joe Biden, Harry Reid, and Nancy Peloisi proceeded to load down the bill with pork. then they waited to the last minute to vote so no one could read the BILL! Sorry you Sandy victims are caught up in these Gustapo style politics but with 16 trillion in debt the conservatives are not going to vote for something like this. But ya'll just go ahead stick your head in the sand and blame the republicans!