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#197680 by gtZip
Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:14 am
Eh, it's the "fear mongering" statement and the hand waving dismissal of everything kramerguy took the time to lay out... That's just status quo ignorant ass-ism.

He had a few thoughts that weren't that way, but they don't even come across because of the above mentioned.

#197711 by PaperDog
Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:41 pm
gtZip wrote:Eh, it's the "fear mongering" statement and the hand waving dismissal of everything kramerguy took the time to lay out... That's just status quo ignorant ass-ism.

He had a few thoughts that weren't that way, but they don't even come across because of the above mentioned.


Outwardly, it seemed insensitive (of Dizz ...yeah Dizz ..you! :P ;) ) , But my take is that he was expressing frustration about the politics behind the issue. As you know, there is always profit to be made off the misfortune of others. Most Pharmas know this and exploit that fact. Consider Cancer research funds (going on for over 75 years) and you'd think by now they had a cure, but no...they dont and they wont... long as the money keeps flowing.

Sadly, the topic of Autism was dismissed by the medical community as one of those 'odditities" which didnt warrant a full fledged research commitment, until a lot of parents insisted on the attention for it. Progress is being made at a snails pace, (same as cancer research) ...and I think this is ultimately what frustrates readers of lengthy explanations by medical committess... and opinion columnists (BM posters not withstanding).

I think that pharmas would like to spread the myth of vaccinations around, to encourage a demand to research the issue... (another ploy to ride a gravey train) . In that respect, I think Dizz recognizes that possibility and had vehemently warned us to not be fools about the vaccination issue... Dizz Am I correct or should I just STFU?

:shock:
:lol: :lol:

#197770 by Kramerguy
Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:32 pm
PaperDog wrote:
There is no evidence in any medical journal (That I am aware of) that can be used to assert that Vaccinations 'cause' autism.



Its all hypothesis and theres just isnt a real answer yet.


http://vactruth.com/2012/09/18/fda-vaccine-autism-sids/

There's tons of "proof" on this site alone, much of it corroborated. The problem is that the CDC and DHHS both released statements summarizing that there's no link, and everyone just believes it. There's no published studies that CONFIRM this. In fact, there's no published studies AT ALL, ANYWHERE that multiple-dose vaccinations, or the amount of total vaccinations are even safe. The only study that was ever done was done when children were given less than 10 total in their lifetimes, and before ANY of the current poisons (er.. preservatives) were introduced into them.

How is it that the left side of government says the right does nothing but lie, the right side says the left does nothing but lie, but somehow, what is arguably the most corrupt two divisions of our government are just telling the truth, despite the lack of any evidence to support their claims.

The parents have gone to great lengths, amid public humiliation, to fight for the truth, and it's disparaging to see such blatant lies by our government be taken at face value when all of the evidence says otherwise. It's pretty damn baffling.

#197771 by Kramerguy
Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:37 pm
PaperDog wrote:I think that pharmas would like to spread the myth of vaccinations around, to encourage a demand to research the issue... (another ploy to ride a gravey train) . In that respect, I think Dizz recognizes that possibility and had vehemently warned us to not be fools about the vaccination issue... Dizz Am I correct or should I just STFU?

:shock:
:lol: :lol:


This is the question everyone should be asking. Big pharma has taken every step possible to stop testing, including defaming the character of a scientist who DID independent studies. They want no official study done, except the one that the CDC and DHHS cite (the private, closed-door study that nobody outside those organizations has ever seen)

You gotta start asking why...

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