General Music Chat

i must be asleep at the switch because i missed references (veiled or otherwise) to either of those in that funky tip of the hat homage to The Meters.

Not your fault PG. My comment was veiled... The vid link of the three playing together...That music was a great exercise in technical prowess. But it just doesn't resonate at all with me.

The Inference to cappuccino and high rent is just my own snide way of saying that Mayer and lots of other white folks, really don't have a lot to cry about.. . They can 'emulate the blues, damn well... but I don't feel the real pathos there... (Not to mention the the missing ethos

I agree that SRV copped a lot from Albert King and hendrix... But the difference, is that that he identified with it on deeper levels (If you consider SRVs life) . I'm thinking that SRV has more poetic license, than Mayer on that level...But again... Mayer is awesomely gifted player, Maybe in 10 years, after some ass-whippings, he'll arrive.

I'm just the janitor...I'll get back to my 'sweeping' of statements now

well we're back to respectfully disagreeing once again!

i've never bought into that cliche of ya have to LIVE the blues to sound genuine playing 'em. that's just romantic urban legend stuff there.

the fact that a lot of the older black bluesman had it tough and they happen to sound great...that's just a coincidence. for every great black bluesmen that had it tough and sounds great i've no doubt there's a hundred or so more that had it just as tough but sound like poo.

any good music is about expressing emotion. and i just don't buy into the old party line BS of "ya gotta live it to sound authentic". sure...SRV, Albert King, Roy Buchanon, and others had it tough. did that inform their music and playing? maybe. to an extent...i'll give ya that. would they have sounded any less "authentic", "black", or "genuine" had they had an easier path? we'll never know.

my take is that they'd likely sound just as good.

see, you're not the only w a broom!

i must be asleep at the switch because i missed references (veiled or otherwise) to either of those in that funky tip of the hat homage to The Meters.

Not your fault PG. My comment was veiled... The vid link of the three playing together...That music was a great exercise in technical prowess. But it just doesn't resonate at all with me.

The Inference to cappuccino and high rent is just my own snide way of saying that Mayer and lots of other white folks, really don't have a lot to cry about.. . They can 'emulate the blues, damn well... but I don't feel the real pathos there... (Not to mention the the missing ethos

I agree that SRV copped a lot from Albert King and hendrix... But the difference, is that that he identified with it on deeper levels (If you consider SRVs life) . I'm thinking that SRV has more poetic license, than Mayer on that level...But again... Mayer is awesomely gifted player, Maybe in 10 years, after some ass-whippings, he'll arrive.

I'm just the janitor...I'll get back to my 'sweeping' of statements now

well we're back to respectfully disagreeing once again!

i've never bought into that cliche of ya have to LIVE the blues to sound genuine playing 'em. that's just romantic urban legend stuff there.

the fact that a lot of the older black bluesman had it tough and they happen to sound great...that's just a coincidence. for every great black bluesmen that had it tough and sounds great i've no doubt there's a hundred or so more that had it just as tough but sound like poo.

any good music is about expressing emotion. and i just don't buy into the old party line BS of "ya gotta live it to sound authentic". sure...SRV, Albert King, Roy Buchanon, and others had it tough. did that inform their music and playing? maybe. to an extent...i'll give ya that. would they have sounded any less "authentic", "black", or "genuine" had they had an easier path? we'll never know.

my take is that they'd likely sound just as good.

see, you're not the only w a broom!

Well That's the diff I guess between you and I, with respect to song writing... My perspective comes from a whole different world..

(But, for what its worth, I was once told "...the deeper the pain, the deeper the blues...", from none other than of BB King, himself in Antone's night club, Austin TX 1984, while I was having a chat with him at the bar, during his break from a set. I'm gonna take his word for it ..

Oh and then there was a local fella named Jak Woodbury, whom I just had the pleasure of jamming with a few weeks ago... Correction... I had the distinct pleasure of actually loaning my Mustang II amp to him... impromptu, at a party we were at. (Should have seen the disgust and grimace on his face when he plugged in and we couldn't tap into the right sound for what he needed...LOL! ) ... He used to tour with a local, cool, old black man named Long John Hunter a few years back... Now he didn't tell me anything about the blues philosophy per se...But he did tell that Long John Hunter owes him about 400 bucks......

I guess the philosophy is strictly subjective... Meanwhile, John mayer makes a sh*t load more cash with his music, than I do with mine...So I guess, in the end My opinion really doesnt matter...

hey EVERYONE'S opinion matters...or NONE of 'em do.

yeah, your exp is diff than mine whose is different than fred's whose is diff than Willma's.

and yeah, i would expect BB to say exactly that. and he's earned the right to.

my exp...i've played w and heard many great and convincing blues players who didn't pick cotten, live hand to mouth, wonder how they were gonna make next mos rent, and drive a 30 yr old car that was held together w baling wire and duct tape...if they owned a car at all.

either ya got something to say (and the means to say it) or ya don't.

i'm off to the gig. enjoy the rest of the day.

Songwriting requires a vivid imagination or experiences. Performing requires some kind of passion to be convincing.

All art is passion. Predictability is the bane of an artist.


Johnny Lang was too young to have know what the blues are when he started, but man, could he sing it with passion!!!