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Any bluesier players outside of the King or Vaughn Family?

Robin Trower? (very hypnotic)
David Gilmour (his own bluesyish style. Master of phrasing.)
Eric Johnson (cliffs of Dover - best git instrumental ever)

New School - John Mayer (no joke)

John Mayer is technically gifted... But cant hear a stitch of blues in his music.

p-dog....i gotta wonder, have you heard any of the trio stuff w Pino and Steve Jordan?

i'm not a big fan of his commercial pop stuff... but the guy can definitely play funk and blues. and when he chooses to do so he exposes the teenyboppers who are there for the pop stuff to some pretty hip shite that they likely would never be exposed to otherwise. that garners points in my book.

....like this Meters tune for instance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhisRbi ... re=related

Any bluesier players outside of the King or Vaughn Family?

Cornell Dupree and Eric Gale playing in Stuff ... http://youtu.be/9q_c160jfBY

yeah vinny! two of my faves right there. always dug gale's stinging tone and great use of space. dupree...one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts!

yeah vinny! two of my faves right there. always dug gale's stinging tone and great use of space. dupree...one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts!

Thanks Planetguy!

I mainly agree with you .... except I alwas dug Dupree's stinging tone and great use of space, and thought of Gale as one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts.

my favorite guitar instrumental is Cluster Pluck featuring Brent Mason, Albert Lee, James Burton, Vince Gill, John Jorgenson, Red Volkaert, Steve Wariner.. off the Brad Paisley Album "Play" ...

p-dog....i gotta wonder, have you heard any of the trio stuff w Pino and Steve Jordan?

i'm not a big fan of his commercial pop stuff... but the guy can definitely play funk and blues. and when he chooses to do so he exposes the teenyboppers who are there for the pop stuff to some pretty hip shite that they likely would never be exposed to otherwise. that garners points in my book.

....like this Meters tune for instance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhisRbi ... re=related

Yeah, like i said I cant hear a stitch of blues in him...

I guess I should explain... There is no doubt whatsoever that he is an awesome guitarist. I really mean that. I can always rely on the fact that in an elevator , or when I'm put on hold on the phone...I will never be bored with his funky good acrobats on the guitar...just like he illustrates on the aforementioned video

Sorry bro... I just cant worked up over broken cappuccino machines s or rent in my town-historical district neighborhood... It just aint the blues in my book

I must concede, he is an excellent guitar teach , and in fact I studied one of his videos on how to play Voodoo child.. He gave me a good start with it , and he's brilliant like that, when it comes to covers. (I still think SRV does it better, short of jimi himself)

And please know that by no means, do I claim to be an expert on the blues... But I know enough to say with certainty, he's not a 'blues man'. Hows that saying go? "He's cool, but he aint 'Old-Black-Man' cool"

Sorry bro... I just cant worked up over broken cappuccino machines s or rent in my town-historical district neighborhood... It just aint the blues in my book

i must be asleep at the switch because i missed references (veiled or otherwise) to either of those in that funky tip of the hat homage to The Meters.

me, all i hear there is some greasy playing w killer tone and tasteful use of space. and the pretty obvious respect he has for folks you consider the real deal.

as for JM being brilliant on covers...i agree, because he sticks close enough to the script to show he has proper respect for the original version and the original artist... but not slavishly so, as he still brings HIS thing to it. is he reinventing the wheel and playing something totally original? hale no.

but that ain't what the blues is about. have you ever listened to much Albert King? there are AK solos that SRV just lifted note for note even copping the same tone and inflections in many SRV tunes!


i gotta say that i think JM's teenybopper popularity is his biggest obstacle in being taken seriously as anything else but a pop teen idol. i suspect you and many others would feel differently about his blues cred if you'd never been exposed to his more commercial/popular side.

yeah vinny! two of my faves right there. always dug gale's stinging tone and great use of space. dupree...one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts!

Thanks Planetguy!

I mainly agree with you .... except I alwas dug Dupree's stinging tone and great use of space, and thought of Gale as one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts.

hehehe....yeah true enough!

as usual Steve Gadd is just ridiculous. wow. i have a cpl of their albums on vinyl and while i have boatloads of respect for them as players i feel their biggest shortcoming was their chosen material. all the 'stuff' i heard just never had much substance or meat to it...i mean they could always groove the crap out of a one or two chord vamp but after awhile....well, i just wanna hear a little more "substance" and development in a tune.

Gordon Edwards is (was?) a fine bass player but for my money...i prefer them w my man Eddie Gomez on upright.

i must be asleep at the switch because i missed references (veiled or otherwise) to either of those in that funky tip of the hat homage to The Meters.

Not your fault PG. My comment was veiled... The vid link of the three playing together...That music was a great exercise in technical prowess. But it just doesn't resonate at all with me.

The Inference to cappuccino and high rent is just my own snide way of saying that Mayer and lots of other white folks, really don't have a lot to cry about.. . They can 'emulate the blues, damn well... but I don't feel the real pathos there... (Not to mention the the missing ethos

I agree that SRV copped a lot from Albert King and hendrix... But the difference, is that that he identified with it on deeper levels (If you consider SRVs life) . I'm thinking that SRV has more poetic license, than Mayer on that level...But again... Mayer is awesomely gifted player, Maybe in 10 years, after some ass-whippings, he'll arrive.

I'm just the janitor...I'll get back to my 'sweeping' of statements now

yeah vinny! two of my faves right there. always dug gale's stinging tone and great use of space. dupree...one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts!

Thanks Planetguy!

I mainly agree with you .... except I alwas dug Dupree's stinging tone and great use of space, and thought of Gale as one of da greasiest rhythm gtrsts.

hehehe....yeah true enough!

as usual Steve Gadd is just ridiculous. wow. i have a cpl of their albums on vinyl and while i have boatloads of respect for them as players i feel their biggest shortcoming was their chosen material. all the 'stuff' i heard just never had much substance or meat to it...i mean they could always groove the crap out of a one or two chord vamp but after awhile....well, i just wanna hear a little more "substance" and development in a tune.

Gordon Edwards is (was?) a fine bass player but for my money...i prefer them w my man Eddie Gomez on upright.

I mostly agree about that too ... great respect for their musicality, individually and collectively, but I really only liked a few of their tunes very much. I'd have liked to hear them do a whole album of instrumental versions of Becker & Fagen tunes.

Eddie Gomez ... one of the finest! certainly a bassist as substantial as they come, and then some! I like him best surrounded by lot's of substance ... http://youtu.be/rCmtT9nHkKs

Eddie Gomez ... one of the finest! certainly a bassist as substantial as they come, and then some! I like him best surrounded by lot's of substance ... http://youtu.be/rCmtT9nHkKs

nice. though i'm hip to g. russell and bill evans (of course) i wasn't aware of that album. wow...whatta cast! thanks for hipping me to that.

the '78 Chick Correa album "Friends" has some of my fave Eddie Gomez playing and tone. (not to mention some great playing from Gadd and Joe Farrell. yeah, and Chick don't sound too bad either! love his Rhodes tone from back then.

funny. in the '70's it seems the defacto string bass tone was using a pickup thru a small amp (usually a POLYTONE)....sometimes that works for me, sometimes not. in eddie's case he ALWAYS sounds great to my ears!

here's the title tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siTBqf9GahA