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So you have spoken with 90% of Muslims and Arabs? When you can get that number to sign on to a petition against America then I'll agree with you. But, until then, I'm going to believe that peace will always be a possibility. When they hit you with violence, don't give them a reaction and they'll get bored real quick. If we keep up our embassies and businesses and attempts to establish peace, eventually they'll realize maybe they should talk things through and then we can come to an agreement.

When you walk through a guantlet of 90 % hating , angry muslums that get bored, let us know about it and I'll believe you.

Fisherman Bob wrote:Just ask the Israelis how beneficial "talking things through" has gone for them.

Uhm...pardon me fisherman, I think your ignorance is showing.

That number is too high for the amount of haters. 90%? Not even close.

These people? You act as they all think the same, have the same beliefs, do the same things, and have the same views. When you do that, you're no better than the Islamic Extremists that says "America must burn" because they think all Americans are the same.

Well I'm Told that we Americans all look the same...

That number is too high for the amount of haters. 90%? Not even close.

And you know this, How?

americans are hated in almost every country out there, thanks to our governments hand in everything.. it's not our beliefs or freedoms they hate, it's our occupation in their land.. their war has been going on for 1000's of years since the beginning of time... we just decided to invade a country (iraq) that had nothin to do with us.. iraq didnt hit the WTC like bush implied.. they weren't harboring OSAMA BIN LADEN (who denyed he had anything to do with it.. and trust me.. he doesnt deny anything he does).. we decided to go and occupy the middle east, and the WTC attacks were a preset for war.. just like "The Gulf of Tonkin" (look it up..) got us into the vietnam war, "The Northwoods Project (look it up.. it involves college kids, hijacked jetliners, and govt. lies.. this is where the "hijacked jets" of 9-11 came from) got us into Castro's back door.. all presets for war.. we are a war loving country.. that's why the world hates americans.. all this information is now released due to the freedom of information act.. just like the records of 9-11 have just been released.. educate yourselves people..

Generalization is never an accurate portrayal of anything. Most of you all know this I’m certain, it’s just frustrating not having a convenient target of vengeance. We always did in the past, but the deception of Iraq has clearly demonstrated that our wrath is the worse case scenario.

In fact our zeal to invade Iraq was probably the most consequential event for the destruction of our, economy, military and freedom. This government is on auto-pilot and we only have ourselves to blame. Take a good look at what our messed up policies has done to that section of the world. The suffering that 9/11 has brought us is a fraction of the pain we have unleashed in return and what did it get us?

What any patriot would forgive to defend their home, has been manipulated to what any corporation is willing to do to profit. “In war truth is the first casualty”

Of course we want to invade Libya, only 25% of Libya has been surveyed for oil. It doesn’t have the same political ramifications that an outright invasion of Iran would bring. Although we will be doing that eventually too, not to worry. And now, some of you are thinking it’s not a bad idea. Really? Was Iraq that long ago? And I quote George Bush: “Fool me - you cant get fooled again”.

Let’s see they have a relatively tiny military and we would be doing them such a favor bringing them “savages” McDonalds and cable TV. As any Roman bearing gifts I’m curious as to what they could possible have handy to repay our very selective enthusiasm for “democracy”?

Can anyone guess what that can be? Cuba is lucky they don’t have oil and North Korea really wishes they did. They just can’t do enough short of outright attack, to get a military response.

Who here doesn’t think we will be invading at least one Middle East country, shortly after the election? The Egyptian people want more strive and unrest? Really? As if a recent bloody revolution isn’t enough for one generation. Look on the internet and you can find just about anything! It’s real weird that all of the sudden there is only one internet movie offensive to Islam worthy of protest.

If that wasn’t the excuse, does anyone think another one would be all that hard to manifest? Like: “Oops hey we just accidentally burned all of these Korans out in the open in plain view”. Or: "Dam sorry about that drone strike on Hershima the goat herder." Or, Not to worry Pakistan yeah yeah it's your country but we are just going to do this by ourselves, because Obama needs a body and it's really THAT important we deliver NOW." Nope I cant see why any of this could even remotely be offensive and considered a provocation.

BushObamaRomney doesn’t care about human suffering, or even slightly about what you think. Do your duty this fall and vote for the lighter or darker shade of gray, then take pride in the fact that your vote “mattered” in progressing a different flavor of status quo. Because that’s exactly what we need right now: “Business as Usual”. The quicker we break it the faster we can fix it, so I say YES let’s get on with it already. “Go Obama, Go Obama, Go Obama. Woot!”

Through democracy we are not guaranteed to have the best government, but for certain, we will get the government we deserve and THAT scares the hell out of me. Think on that before we blame more poor brown people, about the way we dominate the globe. We deserve to be fired as the boss of this, that being already done, sit back and enjoy the ride.

If there is profits to be made by invading Libya, we’ll be there soon enough, teaching them folks it’s dangerous to live near our oil. That IS the one and only consideration, all this other nonsense is just so the pill is easier to swallow. I just realized that's the first time I ever used a frowning smiley face. lol I'm much too optimistic

agreed

Fisherman Bob wrote:Just ask the Israelis how beneficial "talking things through" has gone for them.

Uhm...pardon me fisherman, I think your ignorance is showing.

. Ignorance? Name ONE instance where the Israelis and their "friendly" Arab neighbors has "talked through" to an agreement that has led to a lasting peace. The Arabs have NEVER in unison ever negotiated ANYTHING that has led to permanent peace. Just one reason among many that Israel is NOT RECOGNIZED as a nation among the Arab world. And the funny thing is after 64 years there Israel sits stronger than ever, a few million people in the middle of a BILLION people who hate their guts who have tried every conceivable terror approach, short of nuclear, to dislodge the Israelis. Maybe, just maybe, one day the Moslems will come to the conclusion that there has to be a REASON for Israel's existence. Maybe, just maybe, they will realize that PROTECTING and HONORING Israel will be the greatest promotion of Islam, that true tolerance of those who worship differently from themselves is FAR better than beheading Infidels....

These people? You act as they all think the same, have the same beliefs, do the same things, and have the same views. When you do that, you're no better than the Islamic Extremists that says "America must burn" because they think all Americans are the same.

WTF... A small gang in some other country kill 3 or 4 americans and we go off the deep end. The cost to clean up the mess is in the millions.

Why don't we clean up this mess on our own soil. These A.ssholes have killed 5 to 10 Innocent American Bystanders's EVERYDAY! The cost to us is nothing because we do as little a possible to clean up here.

Bring back all the american troops back to the US and take care of this BS first.


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Fisherman Bob wrote:Just ask the Israelis how beneficial "talking things through" has gone for them.

Uhm...pardon me fisherman, I think your ignorance is showing.

. Ignorance? Name ONE instance where the Israelis and their "friendly" Arab neighbors has "talked through" to an agreement that has led to a lasting peace. The Arabs have NEVER in unison ever negotiated ANYTHING that has led to permanent peace. Just one reason among many that Israel is NOT RECOGNIZED as a nation among the Arab world. And the funny thing is after 64 years there Israel sits stronger than ever, a few million people in the middle of a BILLION people who hate their guts who have tried every conceivable terror approach, short of nuclear, to dislodge the Israelis. Maybe, just maybe, one day the Moslems will come to the conclusion that there has to be a REASON for Israel's existence. Maybe, just maybe, they will realize that PROTECTING and HONORING Israel will be the greatest promotion of Islam, that true tolerance of those who worship differently from themselves is FAR better than beheading Infidels....

Bob, I think East Jerusalem and West Jerusalem was an arbitration that made Jerusalem a safer place for Palestinians and Jews alike..

Israel ( the people ) returned to the promised land by force and have not returned to God.

They shall not know peace, nor will any man until Christ returns.

RG What an excellent point...You nailed it!

It appears that America has gone the way of 'tribes'.... The very same structure we find in the Middle east.

There is really one reason, and one reason only, why we attacked Iraq....and that was because Bush sought vengences against Saddam for putting out a hit contract on Bush's father (George Sr).
If you are CIF of the worlds super power nation, and you have her military at your disposal... and if you loved your dad, you damn well know, you'd have done the same thing