General Music Chat

Some of "YOU MEN" are medical professionals. Well aware of the use and each individuals right to and their RESPONSIBILITY to provide medical care for themselves, or not. Without religion or governmental interference.

That wasn't what I was addressing. The point is: before Obamacare, companies have been providing contraceptives already as part of the healthcare plan and people are NOW wanting to bitch they don't want to pay for it thinking that it's only about birth control when it's not. If it's already figured into the cost of healthcare, then how does it differ from other drugs that are used to combat a person's irresponsibility? That's my question? Where's the limit?

Outside of you, George, most men have no idea what contraceptives are used for.

Chaeya

Now you are starting to understand the problem. Government has no right to be involved in all this crap. This is about personal freedom, responsibility, and tolerance.
All the rest of you expect the the government to tell you how to live.

I got news. LIFE IS TO SHORT. I don't have time to waste telling another man to stop fuucking around with mine.!!!!!!

I never believed that life is short.

Chaeya

Some of "YOU MEN" are medical professionals. Well aware of the use and each individuals right to and their RESPONSIBILITY to provide medical care for themselves, or not. Without religion or governmental interference.

That wasn't what I was addressing. The point is: before Obamacare, companies have been providing contraceptives already as part of the healthcare plan and people are NOW wanting to bitch they don't want to pay for it thinking that it's only about birth control when it's not. If it's already figured into the cost of healthcare, then how does it differ from other drugs that are used to combat a person's irresponsibility? That's my question? Where's the limit?

Outside of you, George, most men have no idea what contraceptives are used for.

Chaeya

I was told that Contraceptives occur when a person says one thing, but does the opposite... Of course I might have mis-underestimated the magnetictude of that information.

"The life death and resurrection of Christ is the gospel, to focus full attention anywhere else is to lose sight of the truth and beauty of redemption." Sans

Not sure what you mean here, George. What is the "life" of Christ? "They were astonished by His doctrine." He was a Teacher. He taught lessons, he lived a life's lesson. If you are going to be certain to make a "full" comment about judgement and judging people, which is in harmony with what Jesus (and the rest of Scripture) fully taught, why do you boil down religion and faith to a generic life, death, and resurrection of Christ? What has Christ been doing for the last 2000 years? He's been doing that, as our High Priest, for longer than He lived on earth, obviously, so it must figure into the entire aspect of Prophet, Priest, and King, and what the gospel actually means, in full. We are to be sanctified spirit, soul, and body. You know that passage, 1 Thes. 5:23. Preserved blameless in our minds, emotions, and physical nature. That being the case it matters what we put into our bodies. That's just a simple principle, even non-religious people live by.

If the gospel, the good news, if just the generic life, death, and resurrection of Christ the Bible should be a whole lot smaller than it is, no? The good news is that man need not sin, need not fall, need to live according to the flesh, but above that, because He that is in us is greater than he that is in this world trying to ruin us. At least, that is how I read the totality of Scripture, the "full" gospel.

Of course, I know this is not a Christian web site, nor a place for theological discussion, per se, so I shall quit here.

Looking forward to meeting you in the kingdom.

"This exemplifies why I detest organized religion. This morning in thousands of churches all over the world people sipped wine as the "blood of Christ". Yet we have one guy saying this is immoral, to the point of denying and rewriting history." Jimmy

I'm sorry you hate organized religion. I know of no particular entity which can carry on any kind of work without being organized. Even a kitchen is organized. Why should Christ's believers on earth not function in an organized manner to promote the gospel? The issue is when man-made ideas become law; when tradition overrides a simple Thus saith the Lord, and there is plenty of that in the last 2000 years.

Considering you do not seem to have a taste for the Bible as daily food, I wonder why you comment at all about this, but as you have, you might notice in Scripture that salvation and walking with God every day is a personal thing, not an organized thing. Two separate issues. That being the case, any and every person has the freedom to search the Scriptures daily to see what is in them and NOT trust to man for that information.

The fact that millions of people do anything in the name of Christ does not make it correct or approved of heaven. In fact, in religious history, the majority of professed believers has NEVER been on the side of right, ever, in matters concerning faith and practice. Each individual must answer for themselves in matters of faith and practice, and know that the Bible, and the Bible, alone, is the only rule of faith, practice, and doctrine for believers. Of course, the Roman Catholic Church does not believe that, so there is your first split in Christian history. Then you have the various Protestant churches, some clinging to "Mother" in many aspects, others fewer, some, not at all. More splits. So, truly, and logically, what the largest numbers of professed believers do any given day of the week is no standard for truth.

My faith rests on the entire Bible, Genesis to Revelation. That is my faith. Christ is the Word. The Word is a volume containing information about God, and about living for Him. And I might remind you that ONE man changed Europe, as God used him - Martin Luther. Others, just one man at a time, in many cases, were used of God to change entire nations. With God one man can make the difference. It is something all men should strive for.

I am not rewriting history at all. I am just commenting about what I believe the entire Bible states about the consumption of fermented beverages, which, factually, cannot be used to portray the spotless, sinless, blood of the Lamb of God. Only the pure blood of the grape, Deut, 32:14, can do that, not decayed grape juice. Unless someone could show that fermentation takes place in heaven, when Christ said this is My blood of the new covenant and I shall not drink of it again until I drink it new with you in heaven, what was used to typify His blood at the last supper was the pure blood of the grape - grape juice, which is what heaven shall have plenty of, and I long for it.

Doesn't matter what millions of people do, Jimmy. All that matters is what Scripture teaches, for the believer. And that will rarely jive with what non-believers see as correct for living life, and far too often, unfortunately, what the majority of professed believers end up doing. Just the way history has gone, from Genesis to now, to the end of time.

After reading that I have a headache; I think I need to drink some blood of Christ. Like two bottles worth.

Do we have to write political music on this site or can we just write whatever we usually write without fear of reprisal(s)? lol

I think I may have a 60's political song kicking up just from some of this thread..have to see what I can get going, melodically speaking.