General Music Chat

and one last thing, if I was motivated by money, then why would I be living in the middle of rural Missouri?.. it's because I AM NOT motivated by money, or I would be where the money's at, not here in rural Missouri.. you inherited a bunch of money, just guessin' you folks or grandparents, bought land here many many years ago, real cheap, and selling it off at high prices in today's world, and you inherited a sizable chunk.. nothing to see here, move along..

hope the BM team shut this thread down.. like they did mine the other day..

back to the "worship of money" philosophy you espouse so much Lynard, I am not an adherant of that philosophy, yes, I know it does not jive well being an American and I'm expected to worship materialism, but many books I read that taught me other ways to look at life left a deep impact on me at a very young age, most notably the scriptures of Jesus, who said it is easier for a rich man to go through the eye of a needle than to enter heaven.. among other scriptures, even the one that says in effect, you can not worship money and worship God at the same time, and thinking back, how close Jesus teachings are to the esoteric knowledge given in the Vedic Hyms and Upanishads, and the Bhagavad Gita.. I was in that phase you claim you are in now, thinking strict dietary principles and extreme abuse to the body and other austerities will give you spiritual awakening, well, it does work, but if you don't master it correctly, and let it overtake you (it's power) then you will be it's slave like maybe what happened to me.. don't awaken the kundalini if you can't make it subordinate to you, you will be a sorry beast in the long run..

What in the phukk is your problem,
you are the biggest liar and sociopath
I've ever met. And now your going to
quote Jesus.

Do you wander why you don't have any friends?

Karma put you out there in the trailer with your
parents and brother, nobody's fault but yours.

Start your own thread.

Why do you want to lie about me for, are you that jealous?

i'm going to ignore you from now on, you ruin this whole
forum for me, with your lies that drip from your mouth like
dirt.

I won't respond to you again, karma will catch up to you.

I feel sorry for you and your lonely pathetic existence!

What in the phukk is your problem,
you are the biggest liar and sociopath
I've ever met. And now your going to
quote Jesus.

Do you wander why you don't have any friends?

Karma put you out there in the trailer with your
parents and brother, nobody's fault but yours.

Start your own thread.

Why do you want to lie about me for, are you that jealous?

i'm going to ignore you from now on, you ruin this whole
forum for me, with your lies that drip from your mouth like
dirt.

I won't respond to you again, karma will catch up to you.

I feel sorry for you and your lonely pathetic existence!

where you been the last hour? hiding your stash again when you get a little nervous?

a couple phone calls and it's over..

don't you think it's odd, that MR HALEY apologized for being an azz to you (AFTER YOU INSTIGATED MR HALEY'S OUTBURSTS), but he won't retract his statement about you being a crappy guitar player and that his grandson (or whatever) can play circles around you?..don't you find that disconcerting..???

you big boned piece of sh*t, telling your imaginary old lady, you would blow me away if I stalked her?.. I ain't even seen her? so how would I know what to stalk?

What in the phukk is your problem,
you are the biggest liar and sociopath
I've ever met. And now your going to
quote Jesus.

Do you wander why you don't have any friends?

Karma put you out there in the trailer with your
parents and brother, nobody's fault but yours.

Start your own thread.

Why do you want to lie about me for, are you that jealous?

i'm going to ignore you from now on, you ruin this whole
forum for me, with your lies that drip from your mouth like
dirt.

I won't respond to you again, karma will catch up to you.

I feel sorry for you and your lonely pathetic existence!

that's all I ever wanted, was you not to respond to my comments, but you can't go one day, without calling me a bastard, a poor bastard, a liar, a sasquatch, a toothless sasquatch, a stalker, etc. .. look back over all your posts the past several months and see who started this crap.. not me.. I was not the only one who mentioned the clicks on the video does not add up?.. if it's too good to be true, than it's probably not true.. you attack me for trying to help you, see that just because you have over 400,000 hits on a u-tube video does not mean they are on their way to being the next big thing... don't join them just because of that, join them cause you like their music and you get along with them..

I wish you luck, i guess indie is the way to go these days if you know what you are doing.

Indie is the only way to go. It's really sad because if you have a f**k of fans and hits and even if a major label picks you up, you still wind up with little money or paying for things out of pocket and having to keep your day job. Signing with an indie label is all right because they can get you some decent distribution deals, but again, don't expect to drawing enough money to live on. I know people who are signed and they're working day jobs like me - and they have fans, can tour, and everything.

That's why I think if you just stay consistent, keep releasing music (I mean, even if it's an EP), do budget videos (fans really don't care about the quality - they don't), have merchandise to sell and can do some tours and have a job that will let you off to do such, I believe that after some years you can pull off making a living. There are some indie bands who have a huge following and they eek out a living and continually give major labels the finger when they come around.

Many bands and artists quit after a couple of CDs when they don't see the money coming in and they're all scrambling around trying to find someone who's "making it." I think that's where they fail themselves. You have to see your venture like a regular business. It takes a business at least five years to get off the ground, but musicians quit their jobs and expect to be able to earn a living because they made a sacrifice and they "believe" and that's bullshit. It happens for some people, but for the 99% of us, believing isn't enough. It's patience, consistence, and yes, having talent does make a difference.

Just musing over here.

Chaeya

Good music, I'd like to see live versions of the songs, not just lipsynching. The youtube hits seem to have mostly come from some service providing them - you can look at he stats for the 2nd one and the views went up 50000 in a couple of days. All the comments on the first one seemed to be very generic, too.

almost like "click fraud" but probably a legitimate service?

Instead of doing that, he'd be better off getting fans and followers. If you're trying to get gigs, promoters, labels, and clubowners look at how many fans you have on places like Reverbnation, Soundcloud, Jango, and a few others. You Tube is great for videos, but what really counts is having an active website where you can regularly correspond with your fans. That's what the industry looks at - and it isn't so much about labels, if you're trying to get gigs out of town or get on a festival, this is what the organizers look at.

Chaeya

don't you think it's odd, that MR HALEY apologized for being an azz to you (AFTER YOU INSTIGATED MR HALEY'S OUTBURSTS), but he won't retract his statement about you being a crappy guitar player and that his grandson (or whatever) can play circles around you?..don't you find that disconcerting..???

i tell ya that one yr old grandson of HALEY must be one talented little booger. seems he can also play circles around my dobro playing.

and i swear...i've never met ANYONE under the age of FIVE who could do THAT!

Indie is the only way to go. It's really sad because if you have a f**k of fans and hits and even if a major label picks you up, you still wind up with little money or paying for things out of pocket and having to keep your day job. Signing with an indie label is all right because they can get you some decent distribution deals, but again, don't expect to drawing enough money to live on. I know people who are signed and they're working day jobs like me - and they have fans, can tour, and everything.

I think (And this is strictly my speculation only) what most folks may not fully understand is ...that to be monetarily successful in music biz, you either have to be part of the greatest circus act on the planet , or you have to have some distinctly profound attribute, which sets you miles apart apart from the status quo. Today's entertainment demands firer-eaters and sword swallowers, who can growl and do handstands without much rehearsal. That's the only thing that will legally draw in big bucks.

If I am to be honest with myself, at my age, I participate, relatively speaking, on a minuscule scale..and its really out of vanity, that I do this stuff at all. Sort of like a mid-life crisis, only without all the chicks and who's who parties...lol! If i put myself in the shoes of a bonafide big-league promoter, what he or she looks for is that mother-load circus act or prodigy. One look at me, and he/she sees just another dead horse.

But its okay... Long time ago, I made a decision to not make a living at music. For one to 'make it big' in music , on cannot resign to music as a hobby...

p-dawg i might not agree w your politics but when it comes to your outlook on how you approach music....i can easily relate.

anyone that goes into music to make it rich or be the next big thing is a fool.

i play music because i HAVE to. whatever tenuous foothold i have on what passes for sanity would quickly be gone if i couldn't play music and share music making w others.

What in the phukk is your problem,
you are the biggest liar and sociopath
I've ever met. And now your going to
quote Jesus.

Do you wander why you don't have any friends?

Karma put you out there in the trailer with your
parents and brother, nobody's fault but yours.

Start your own thread.

Why do you want to lie about me for, are you that jealous?

i'm going to ignore you from now on, you ruin this whole
forum for me, with your lies that drip from your mouth like
dirt.

I won't respond to you again, karma will catch up to you.

I feel sorry for you and your lonely pathetic existence!

just contact Candy Coburn and ask her if I did not play in the studio playing guitar for the demo tape she used to get her initial gigs? I would perhaps still be playing with her, but me working 2nd shift on weekends too, at Penske, got me let go, it was not my playing but my work schedule that would have held back the band.. GO AHEAD GO TO www.candycoburn.com and use the CONTACT feature and ask her if she remembers Dane Ellis Allen