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VinnyViolin wrote:PaperDog wrote:VinnyViolin wrote:Vampier wrote:...again and again. Shooting in the dark with your eyes closed and ?thinking" somehow you hit something. Worn out phrases and methods which only display that there is no redeeming quality present in the nonmusician peanut brain which feels "it" is fighting the good fight, all the while unaware of that which has, is and will always be called Truth, Honour and Blood.
Coward not warrior ... troll not musician or artist. How many are out there ? Who knows. Who cares. They are Farts in the toilet...musicians with no music ...artists with no art ... painters with no paintings ...poets with no poems ...lies with no substance. Humanity is in trouble, in danger of dying and becoming extinct ... all the while hurling insults like monkeys do excretement ?
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all it's powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state."
Joseph Goebbels
The state is a huge predatory entity (a fuqking Vampire!) sucking the life blood and energy from the people, and it seeks to repress all dissent. We will perish unless the people recover their sovereignty from the inhuman legal fictions and corrupted institutions.
So here is a self described Vampier, who is very quick to dehumanize and recommend the swatting out of existence, those who would rather think for themselves, and not be cowed into accepting the Vampier's definition of what is "Truth" and "Honor".
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, you will also want to label it as the TRUTH of course and encourage the violent repression any dissent from your view.
Those who put themselves forward as leaders of movements like these, do need to be scrutinized most carefully. On close inspection they often exhibit the potential for the very same flaws they claim opposition to ... only maybe much worse!
So call me names! Call for:Vampier wrote:swat them out of existence. I strongly encourage this activity wheever and where ever it is possible. It is rather much like taking out the garbage.Goebbels would agree with you.
And I already did post some music. Whether t it suits your tastes or not is of no concern to me.
Vinny, what state might you be referring to? The state of Welfare?
The snake ingests its own tail and risks the swallowing of its own self...Much like the people, who demand the government to satisfy their hungers, and then complain when it does so. As you might know, Its very hard for a snake to talk when its mouth is full of itself.
Now, I don't think there is any Nazi in the world that understood that. But a man around a campfire has tales to tell and truths bellow out with each curl of the flame. I believe Vampier to be on to some truth, and calling that truth 'Goebbels', wont change the messenger's message.
Or maybe it's you, like Vampier, that are seeing some "truth" in Goebbels?
I agree with what you say about the self destruction taking place by means of the welfare ... and warfare state mentality, and there is the federal reserve lending us more phony money. that represents nothing. so we can pay them interest on nothing ... predators.
Yes, I'll bet the Nazis do understand it ... and are happy that you are unable to imagine that they do. "Operation Paperclip" brought to the "state" much more talent than just rocket scientists ...
I do not hear the vampier offering any really new vision ...
Vampier wrote:...Truth is Truth. Truth is always Truth , it does does not :become: Truth.
................ We are Independent and support Freedom, Free Expression and Free Thought.
VinnyViolin wrote:Vinny, what do you really know about the Nazis? Glen Beck cited that the very term of 'Nazi" came from Iran. Is it true?
As Sargent Schultz would say ...... "I know nothing, I see nothing, I did not even wake up this morning!"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym Nazi was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State Police)
Ary·an adj.
Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), "(Land) of the Iranians," from the genitive plural of r, "Iranian"). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, "honor," and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like "the honorable people." (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus "Aryan" came to be synonymous with "Indo-European," and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the "true Aryan" Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis.
PaperDog wrote:VinnyViolin wrote:Vinny, what do you really know about the Nazis? Glen Beck cited that the very term of 'Nazi" came from Iran. Is it true?
As Sargent Schultz would say ...... "I know nothing, I see nothing, I did not even wake up this morning!"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym Nazi was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State Police)
Excellent Vinny, you are now ready to advance to Level 2
ABout Sgt Schultz:Code: Select allAry·an adj.
Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), "(Land) of the Iranians," from the genitive plural of r, "Iranian"). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, "honor," and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like "the honorable people." (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus "Aryan" came to be synonymous with "Indo-European," and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the "true Aryan" Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis.
PaperDog wrote:So you see Vinny, Vampier does not claim superiority. Rather, he merely passes on the the message of the next wake, generated by the evil Obama (who doesnt buy into the Nordic master race either)
(maybe you're hoping that if you are a good dog, he will pull some strings with his buddies in the showbiz industry to help further your musical career ambitions. 
VinnyViolin wrote:PaperDog wrote:VinnyViolin wrote:Vinny, what do you really know about the Nazis? Glen Beck cited that the very term of 'Nazi" came from Iran. Is it true?
As Sargent Schultz would say ...... "I know nothing, I see nothing, I did not even wake up this morning!"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym Nazi was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State Police)
Excellent Vinny, you are now ready to advance to Level 2
ABout Sgt Schultz:Code: Select allAry·an adj.
Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), "(Land) of the Iranians," from the genitive plural of r, "Iranian"). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, "honor," and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like "the honorable people." (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus "Aryan" came to be synonymous with "Indo-European," and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the "true Aryan" Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis.
OK, if that is the point you are driving for ... then your question was poorly stated. You asked bout Nazis ... not Aryans. Not being a Nazi, I've never considered them Aryans. Yes the Nazi's had many idiotic ideas ... one of them was that they were Aryans. I had thought that the folly of this belief was common knowledge as of decades ago when learning about the early settlements of the Indus Valley . It is surprising to me that you only recently learned about this. So much for our school systems, eh? Maybe they just left that kind of stuff out of those "creationist" textbooks you got down that way.PaperDog wrote:So you see Vinny, Vampier does not claim superiority. Rather, he merely passes on the the message of the next wake, generated by the evil Obama (who doesnt buy into the Nordic master race either)
Hitler had the majority of Germany's population marching in the name of his version of TRUTH HONOR BLOOD and they loved him for it.
Paperdog, it is perfectly alright by me if you are inspired by Vampier's romantic fantasies that he calls THE TRUTH ... if you're feeling that TRUTH, then go for it dude!
I do not buy Vampiers version of the TRUTH ... and so Vampier calls for my extermination (he does feel himself superior enough to want to eliminate those who do not suck up to him) just as would any charismatic totalitarian dictator (or wannabe) ... Pol Pot was niether a Nazi or an Aryan. He was just another who spoke much of TRUTH, HONOR, BLOOD.
Glad I'm not you. PaperDog wrote:VinnyViolin wrote:PaperDog wrote:VinnyViolin wrote:Vinny, what do you really know about the Nazis? Glen Beck cited that the very term of 'Nazi" came from Iran. Is it true?
As Sargent Schultz would say ...... "I know nothing, I see nothing, I did not even wake up this morning!"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
The full name of Adolf Hitler's party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The acronym Nazi was formed from the first syllable of NAtional and the second syllable of SoZIalist. Such acronyms, usually formed from the initial letters or syllables of successive parts of compound names, were popular in the Third Reich. Another such example was Gestapo for GEheime STAatsPOlizei (Secret State Police)
Excellent Vinny, you are now ready to advance to Level 2
ABout Sgt Schultz:Code: Select allAry·an adj.
Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), "(Land) of the Iranians," from the genitive plural of r, "Iranian"). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, "honor," and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like "the honorable people." (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus "Aryan" came to be synonymous with "Indo-European," and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the "true Aryan" Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis.
OK, if that is the point you are driving for ... then your question was poorly stated. You asked bout Nazis ... not Aryans. Not being a Nazi, I've never considered them Aryans. Yes the Nazi's had many idiotic ideas ... one of them was that they were Aryans. I had thought that the folly of this belief was common knowledge as of decades ago when learning about the early settlements of the Indus Valley . It is surprising to me that you only recently learned about this. So much for our school systems, eh? Maybe they just left that kind of stuff out of those "creationist" textbooks you got down that way.PaperDog wrote:So you see Vinny, Vampier does not claim superiority. Rather, he merely passes on the the message of the next wake, generated by the evil Obama (who doesnt buy into the Nordic master race either)
Hitler had the majority of Germany's population marching in the name of his version of TRUTH HONOR BLOOD and they loved him for it.
Paperdog, it is perfectly alright by me if you are inspired by Vampier's romantic fantasies that he calls THE TRUTH ... if you're feeling that TRUTH, then go for it dude!
I do not buy Vampiers version of the TRUTH ... and so Vampier calls for my extermination (he does feel himself superior enough to want to eliminate those who do not suck up to him) just as would any charismatic totalitarian dictator (or wannabe) ... Pol Pot was niether a Nazi or an Aryan. He was just another who spoke much of TRUTH, HONOR, BLOOD.
Vinny, Vinny, Vinny,... <sigh> I really thought you were much more...much better than this... For all the anonymity you attempt to sustain, you have just revealed the complete picture of the ass that you have always been. Silly me...I briefly thought, that maybe we had a rapport building, where we could discuss things without resorting to direct insults. But I see, I was wrong.
Before you go on attacking and questioning the education or motives of people you have never even met, , consider this Vinny, your banal and childish existence hangs on American literature and history books... Some, are no doubt being passed around like Christmas fruitcake between you and other lonely nerds, who make it a point to perform intellectual circle-jerks at the local bookshops. You are not an intellect Vinny. Why? because you are incapable of thinking outside your box. You clearly missed the point about the Aryian definition...slipped right past you bro... In my world, that makes you an idiot. I'll leave you to figure out the connection in that article with the original question. In short, You are stuck in your thinking, like an old book with the last 100 pages torn out... Sad to be you.
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