General Music Chat

I believe in certain socialist structures.

Actually Jazz, I do too... I think rescue missions are necessary. I believe that everybody should pitch in some cash for good Highways, but t I also believe it should afford enough democracy to allow us to vote against the decisions of those who would impose bad quality on the community.

I damn sure don't want to ever be told I "have" To buy lunch for the crew... But If I do, the socialists better be springing for mine... down the road (and they better afford equal or better)

I believe in certain socialist structures.

Me too Jazz, but they are not government controlled.
The fundamental principle of money is very closely tied to the fundamental principle of sharing with your fellow man.

NOT AT GUN POINT AND NOT BY LAW.

Sharing freely is Gods law,,,, Once man and his governments insert themselves into this it gets all twisted and demented and suddenly only a few have anything left to share the way it is supposed to be.

I would say at least half of America has forgotten this basic principle of money,,,,, Maybe,,, that is why we have lost our economic clout.

Think about it,,, This is much deeper than it it seems......

I do care how Mitt earned his money. It's one of the most important aspects of this campaign.

Mitt made his money without regard or compassion for any of the people he harmed in the process. He harmed many people to make his $240MILLION plus. His attitude that it was necessary to harm these people to have a healthy economy concerns me the most. He seems to really believe this untruth. In Mitt's world these people harmed were collateral damage. This is un-American, immoral and unethical. It seems to be Mitt's business model with Bain Capitol. Win and make money at all cost, that's Bain Capitol. Cut benefits, lay people off, run up huge debts to make sure they and their investors make 100% ot 200% on their investment. The thousands who lost their jobs and the companies driven into bankruptcy were simply collateral damage.

I don't see things the way Mitt does. I see the faces of the people and the lives impacted or ruined by Romney and Bain. All Romney cared about was his bank accounts in the Caymans or Switzerland growing.

Dane, can you name One (1) person who was harmed from the making of 250 million dollars by Romney?

Give up buddy. This is the stupidity that will only understand,,, at the end of a gun.

There is no logic. There is only deception. In this life they only have to answer to folks like you and me. Don't really matter...

It is coming closer to the point,,,,,, when it will be a good day, to die.


Please write that song, NOW!

I took an oath of allegiance when I entered the military to protect this country and my Commander-In-Chief which is President Obama.. to my utmost ability I will help him as the top Commander of Military activities ..without order there is chaos..the second you disobey Obama's laws and strategies the chain of command has then been broken, and chaos sets in and utterly destroys the American way of life..

If President Obama says jump, you should reply, "how high sir"?.. we the people accept his guidance until the people decide it's time for a change.. to denigrate the good man is traitorous to these United States of America..

NO, YOUR OATH OF ALLEGIANCE IS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE ALREADY BROKEN THAT!
I AM ASHAMED OF YOU CALLING YOUR SELF A VETERAN.

YOU HAVE TO BE AN AMERICAN FIRST!

If President Obama says jump, you should reply, "how high sir"?.. we the people accept his guidance until the people decide it's time for a change.. to denigrate the good man is traitorous to these United States of America..

WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

I have some extra rope, somewhere,, and a tree if you feel so guilty you want to fix the errors of your thinking. I'm not going to help you Dane. I know you gonna need instructions, so I'll have crayon pictures drawn for you.

and furthermore GLENNY, do you realize what the social reforms enacted by Lyndon B. Johnson did for our country? that it was all good! and was progressive and fair without hatred directed then by the rich people towards LBJ.. do you realize in Eisenhower's term in office there was a 91% tax rate on the ultra wealthy?.. why do you complain so much when it always could be much worse... you could have been a sef or a villein once with no opportunity to own your little oil company..

THE GREAT SOCIETY

When John Gardner became the Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare, he was joining President Lyndon Johnson not just as a cabinet member, but as the engineer of his ambitious agenda of social reform known as the "Great Society."

In the wake of President Kennedy's assassination in 1963, a wave of sympathy and public support enabled President Johnson to pass a number of Kennedy Administration proposals including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Building on this momentum, Johnson introduced his own vision for America: "the Great Society" -- in which America ended poverty, promoted equality, improved education, rejuvenated cities, and protected the environment. This became the blueprint for the most far-reaching agenda of domestic legislation since the New Deal -- legislation that has had a profound effect on American society.

Perhaps driven by his own humble beginnings, Johnson declared a "War on Poverty" as central to building the Great Society. In 1960, despite the prosperity of the times, almost one-quarter of all American families were living below the poverty line, and entire regions of the country, like central Appalachia, were bypassed by the economic growth of the postwar years. Moreover, technological advances in industry were also changing job requirements for American workers. The good-paying, unskilled jobs of the past were disappearing, and those without education and skills were being left behind.

The first piece of Great Society legislation, the Economic Opportunity Act 1964, tried to give people tools to get out of poverty. The bill created a Job Corps similar to the New Deal Civilian Conservation Corps; a domestic peace corps; a system for vocational training; and Head Start, a pre-school program designed to prepare children for success in public school. The bill also funded community action programs and extended loans to small businessmen and farmers.

Johnson's landslide re-election victory over Republican opponent Barry Goldwater in 1964 added to the momentum of Great Society reforms. Over the next four years, Johnson enacted a flurry of legislation. One of the most ambitious efforts was the establishment of Medicare to provide health care for America's senior citizens.

In 1964, 44 percent of seniors had no health care coverage, and with the medical bills that come with older age, this propelled many seniors into poverty. In fact, more than one in three Americans over 65 were living below the poverty line -- more than double the rate of those under 65. Medicare was an important and big change in American health care -- it was called the "biggest management job since the invasion of Normandy" -- and it was up to John Gardner to make it work. He helped shepherd Medicare to reality, and the results have been extraordinary: virtually all seniors now have health care, and the poverty rate for the elderly has fallen to approximately one in ten -- a rate lower than that of the general population. Along with Medicare, the Johnson Administration established the Medicaid program to provide health care to the poor.

Education reform was also an important part of Johnson's Great Society, and a particular passion of Gardner's. In 1964, 8 million American adults had not finished 5 years in school; more than 20 million had not finished eight years; and almost a quarter of the nation's population, around 54 million people, hadn't finished high school. In 1965, Congress passed the groundbreaking Elementary and Secondary Education Act which for the first time provided federal funding for education below the college level passed the Higher Education Act, which created a National Teachers Corps and provided financial assistance to students wishing to attend college.

Urban renewal and conservation was the third major component of the Great Society. Ever since the end of World War II, cities faced a shortage of good, affordable housing, At the same time, the suburbanization of America along with the changing economy meant that many businesses began to leave city centers, an exodus that was accelerated by urban rioting that began in earnest after the Watts riot in 1965 in Los Angeles, and continued throughout Johnson's term. As part of a response, Johnson signed the Housing and Urban Development Act of 1965 that established the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and expanded funding for public housing. In addition, he provided aid to cities to rebuild blighted areas.

Johnson's ambitions for a Great Society were checked by his ambitions in Vietnam. The cost of the war in Vietnam along with the costs of his domestic programs strained the economy. Moreover, as the war became more and more unpopular, Johnson lost the political capital needed to continue these reforms. Critics of the Great Society also charged that these programs just created bureaucracies and threw money at problems without producing results. Still others rejected the notion that the federal government should be undertaking these tasks at all. Nevertheless, the impact of the Great Society in many areas is undisputed as political leaders today still wrestle with how to deal with these issues of poverty, health care, and education.

Doesn't that last line just about say it all.
Johnson's great society is the perfect proof of how ffuuucckkked up your thinking is.

It helped a man to learn how to fish, then it helped a man learn how much easier it was to wait for some one to just give him a fish.

May God have mercy on you,,,

Millions of russians served in the red army. But they were in the end, communists. Both Bushes served in the military and did this country much harm.

I'm very afraid of people who want to boss me around and steal from me. I know they are serious bastards.

What kind of people do that? Very dangerous people. When they start that sick sh*t about gun countrol I tremble because what they are really saying - is they want to own me.

Not today comrade. Never.

Talbot

Thanks General Talbot.
Keep the home fires of FREEDOM and JUSTICE for ALL , burning!!!!!!

Millions of russians served in the red army. But they were in the end, communists. Both Bushes served in the military and did this country much harm.

I'm very afraid of people who want to boss me around and steal from me. I know they are serious bastards.

What kind of people do that? Very dangerous people. When they start that sick sh*t about gun countrol I tremble because what they are really saying - is they want to own me.

Not today comrade. Never.

Talbot

what are you worried about, the right to bear arms is in the Constitution.. please tell me you are not another wacko that believes the foolhardy lie about Obama rounding up your guns

Millions of russians served in the red army. But they were in the end, communists. Both Bushes served in the military and did this country much harm.

I'm very afraid of people who want to boss me around and steal from me. I know they are serious bastards.

What kind of people do that? Very dangerous people. When they start that sick sh*t about gun countrol I tremble because what they are really saying - is they want to own me.

Not today comrade. Never.

Talbot

what are you worried about, the right to bear arms is in the Constitution.. please tell me you are not another wacko that believes the foolhardy lie about Obama rounding up your guns

Yes Dane. What bothers him Dane, is that this asshole doesn't obey the constitution. He is lawless to the core. He will try to get control of our guns through UN treaties if he has to. He has been signing away our sovereignty with each stroke of his pen. Every day I look to see what freedom we have lost under this Socialist and his brown shirt Czars. You will wake up one day and wonder what happened to your liberty. When you do, I hope you realize that it was you and those like you that your freedom away.