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I get that people have jobs and that people need to manage their own time. But I'm trying to find guys who are available to hang out at least during the afternoon to play some pop and soft rock music with and do a variety of other activities together, whcih includes helping each other out with life. I'm trying to reach those who don't have any HUGE responsibiltiies, like guys in college who are taking a few easy courses, or someone who works part time at Best Buy or at a local coffee shop or music store or something and gets off during the afternoon. This music/hang out deal was supposed to be a once or twice a week thing, and after working on some songs for awhile, possibly start something official, where we actually perform at different venues in Baton Rouge, and go from there. Other activities were supposed to fall into place, and these could include non-leisure activities, like helping someone out with homework, or whatnot.

All of this doesn't mean I don't know how life works and definetely doesn't mean I'm "Peter Pan" and thus cannot think like an adult.

So basically, my question is how do I continue this search for such musicians considering that I'm not in college and I don't have a job, and don't know of any specific good music venues in my area to go to where pop and soft rock music is popular.

My point in all of this is that I am annoyed by the fact that no matter where I post (online or in person) my request seems to reach people who have the occupation of musician, rather than individuals who just play for fun.

What was I studying in college? General studies. I didn't have an official major. I was taking remedial math classes, and English composition 101. I past the lowest level remedial math class, and failed the final exam for English 101.

I was on my second semester the following year, and took the next level math class, but I dropped it because of the structure of the class. The same thing happened with English 101. The only class I had left was Music Appreciation.

But it's important to know though, that I didn't go to college to learn a trade or a craft, I actually went to college to find a few special guy friends to play some pop and soft rock music with. That was my primary goal. All the classes I was taking were considered secondary. I still did the work that needed to be done, but I still wanted to do something more valuable than academia.

I tried to see if they had any good clubs, but they didn't have any good clubs for pop and soft rock musicians. The only music clubs was a jazz club, and a gospel choir club. So I ended up joining a video gaming and anime club, but that didn't turn out so well, so I dropped out during the following semester. I tried to join the poetry club, thinking song lyrcis are a form of poetry and thus I could at least talk about that and meet some musicians that way, but I had no idea where it was held, so I never attended meetings.

I tried to create my own pop and soft rock music club for guys, but that didn't work out well, because in order to make the club official, I needed to find a sponsor, and there weren't any appropriate music teachers who would be the sponsor of the club, and then I had to find 4 members to make it official. And on top of that, I couldn't decide on what time to schedule club meetings due to the fact that everybody had different schedules and I was only going to college on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays and had a morning class, and an afternoon class and left around 3:00pm, and later in Fall of 2008, due to the fact that I dropped Math and English, and kept my morning music appreciation class, I would usually leave right after I ate my lunch. And of course, I didn't want to schedule club meetings during the early morning hours when some people are still trying to wake up and of course, I didn't want to schedule club meetings and interrupt their lunch time.

"You're looking for musicians to play with on a music site designed to help musicians find other musicians, and you're surprised that most of the people responding are -- gasp -- musicians. Think about that a second. "

Sir, when I stated that I keep reaching people who have musician as their job title, I was referring to ALL the different places, and not just this site. Why can't I reach the middle ground? Those who are good solid players, but ONLY play for fun and are quite so eager to get out and perform?

It was less common, but there were times when my requests would reach individuals who were beginners as well.

Why am I looking specifically for guy friends? One reason is because a lot of the music I like is more popular with the ladies, rather than the guys, and I just want to find those few who like playing more of that music, i.e. Madonna, Lady Gaga, Adam Lambert, David Archuleta, Richard Marx, Michael Jackson, Pink, Kris Allen just to name a few.

Plus, I am the only male child in my family, and well, it would be nice to have a few friends who love each other like good brothers.

"I think you do understand how life works, but you don't want to acknowledge its rules also apply to you. In other words, you can think like an adult; you just don't want to."

What "rules" are you talking about? Everybody is different, and has different types of jobs, and different goals, and different tastes. In my case, I was trying to reach individuals who were smart enough to give themselves just enough responsibilities, rather than those who are doing stressful jobs and are constantly running around everywhere.

"If you want to meet people who are in college or have part-time jobs, why not go back to college or get a part-time job?"

I have considered that, but since I would be doing that JUST to find some guys who enjoy playing pop and soft rock music, that's a no go.

Plus, getting a job is not as easy as it seems for me, considering that I'm legally blind, and thus need to factor in transprotation, and any special accommations I might need while on the job.

And then of course, you've got to consider whether I'll be working with a lot of co-workers around my age.

And then there's the whole job fulfillment issue. You know, doing something that makes me feel good WHILE at the job. I don't want to do any boring office work, or manual labor, or work outside. I want to do something that relates to music in some way, like being a DJ for a local AC station or something.

And then there's the whole job fulfillment issue. You know, doing something that makes me feel good WHILE at the job. I don't want to do any boring office work, or manual labor, or work outside. I want to do something that relates to music in some way, like being a DJ for a local AC station or something.

What kind of music programs does your college offer? Mine recently added a new music industry major -- things like production, promotion, performance, a lot of other things starting with "P" apparently. If any schools nearby offer something similar, that might be worth checking out.

I don't know. It's a small community college. During the time when I was there 2007 and 2008, all they had was gospel choir and a jazz club, and of course, jazz appreciation and a general music appreciation class. That's it! I don't want to work in the business side of music. I want to do a job that's actually fun and enjoyable, without having it interfere with my real passion for PLAYING music, like working as a DJ at a local AC/light rock station or a live DJ for events that need pop and soft rock music.


And if I do have to work alone, I would want to do LPs (Let's Plays) of video games on YouTube.


Again, the goal of this is finding some guys to develope a brotherly bond with and to just play some pop and soft rock songs together and possibly play some good video games, among other activities.

I am NOT officially applying to any other colleges. Joining a music club that's opened to the general public to guys around my age, sure.

Also bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.

And what exactly do you mean by "good music program"? If everybody is joining the program looking to make a living off of playing music, I'm out. However, if the person is joining the program to find a couple of good friends who share his passion for playing a certain style of music and in our own time, might be interested in doing something with it later, I might check that out.

And lately, whenever I e-mail somebody who I think might be able to help me in some way, the place in questions ends up not providing what I need or the person ends up being a jerk.

"But haven't you said you want to make a living playing music?"

That was just a temporary thing so I could meet some guys around my age who play keyboard or guitar and thus like the music I enjoy. I NEVER said anything about making a living doing something music related.

"By "good music program" I just mean they offer something more than a basic appreciation class. I don't know about LSU specifically, but I think a lot of schools are expanding their music programs beyond the traditional classical and jazz stuff, so maybe you can find something closer to what you're interested in."

Again, I don't know what's out there, and again, I don't want to commit to taking any CLASSES! I'm already advanced enough to know most of the stuff I need to know in order to play well.

I just need to know of some leisure places in my area where I can meet these guys. I don't want to commit to taking classes when the stuff covered in these classes would be things me and these music buddies would learn and discuss.

"What do you want to do with your life?"

I hadn't figured that out yet, and that was supposed to be an extra that me and these other guys were also going to do together.

"But you might meet these "music buddies" in one of your classes. You could go to class and learn the stuff, then get together afterwards to practice and play video games and generally hang out. Just a thought"

True, but you've got take into account what TYPE of class it is and how many people are in the class. Like a lecture class vs. an interactive class where you can actually discuss things with everybody including the teacher. That's why I suggested a pop and soft rock music club for guys would be better, because I don't have to do any required work or listen to a boring lecture or a monotonous teacher.

Smaller social environments are better for me as well. Say, a class with 25 people in them vs. a class made up of 100 people. And of course, since I'm trying to reach guys in their 20s and early 30s, this means that you have to subtract ALL of the ladies.

By the way, I tried to do that originally when I went to BRCC, you know, make friends with other guys in my music apprecation class but that failed terribly since the guys in the music apprecation class were mostly taking the class thinking they could get an easy A, rather than meeting other musicians like myself, who wanted to expand on their music knowledge.

What do you want to do with your life?

LOL . . . he's doing it, Trolling

"Why? Lots of girls are into pop music, video games, and trying to make sense out of the horrible confused mess that is life, too"

I stated it earlier. I'm looking for some guys to call my brothers!

"Keep in mind, the low-level introductory classes are almost always going to be straight lecture -- that's true for any major. Once you get past the fundamentals and into the higher level classes, you have more room for discussion, and a lot of people will drop out as the material gets more challenging and they realize it's not really for them. And of course, if you go to a smaller school you have more personal interaction with other students and professors. "

That wouldv'e been nice to know when I first applied to BRCC back in 2007, thus I wouldn't have even bothered to go! I don't want to take ANY classes!

I am looking for a few leisure spots in my city where i can meet these guys. On top of that, I'm trying to find some KEYBOARD players who enjoy playing a lot more of the artists I enjoy.

Also another reason why I am not into taking a class is because usually I'm stuck doing required work, and thus don't focus on socializing. I focus on what needs to be done, and do the whole socializing thing AFTER class or through a club.

"For what it's worth, classic rock guys have it even worse"

Not in my city. In fact, if I was a guitar player and into classic rock, I'd be set. But I'm not. I'm into stuff that a lot of guys around my age consider to be crappy music, because it's too commercial for their taste, or because they hate what American Idol stands for, or some other excuse.

"It's not so bad if you're actually studying things you're interested in. I actually found the higher level classes a lot easier, because they were so much more engaging. If you're truly committed, you won't have any problems, and it sounds to me like you're truly committed."

I'm committed to my passion for music, yes. Interestingly, when I was going to BRCC, I never got around to checking out some of the "higher level" classes, because well, I couldn't even pass the next level remedial math class which was not hard, but just tedious considering the fact that the website I had to use was slow, and well, after taking that long Saturday English 101 class, I really didn't feel like going through it a second time, although it was a completely different teacher.

"Hammond B-3 or a Minimoog or a Mellotron. Which is why I've spent the last couple years learning to play, 'cause I figure someone's got to keep the tradition alive!"

I don't know my way around those either, but I do know the basics of using a Yamaha PSS-140 (the keyboard I had when I was a kid) and a Casio Wk-500.

I had two other keyboards between those, but I forgot what model those were. They were also Casio brands.

"The trick with math classes is you have to find the right professor."

Not in my case. The first class I took was fine. Everything was done on the computer, including the lectures. And it covered a review of the pre-algebra basics.

The second one started out OK, but as I stated, the site where I had to do the homework was VERY slow in loading, so I said, screw that. When doing algebra, the class wouldv'e worked out fine if I could've done the work without using a computer.