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#170399 by JCP61
Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:27 am
Vampier wrote:JCP61 ...Blah Blah Blah ....I love Iggy Pop and that album was pretty good. Cry For Love was excellent in my opinion. I do not pay income tax and have not filed either. Living out of the country has it's advantages and a different perspective not being inundated with the corporate whore media. When are you going to comment upon the UN ?? or do you bother to actually read responding posts ?


Iggy pop sorry not my cup of tea..not familiar in any way.

you didn't pay tax or file, well I'm sorry I do not believe you.
we'll leave it at that.
the UN? oh yea well I can't be bothered with allusions but if you have a quote Id' like to hear it.


you think old laws are dicey......mmm guess you missed out on waco.

the rest of your post seems to me to be fantasy. dreamed up to deceive ignorant and gullible people.

I mean really, this group who can't even get a whore up to the hotel room without getting caught?
gimme a break.
#170416 by Vampier
Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:33 am
... Iggy Pop, Brian Eno, David Bowie ... all exceptional musicians worth checking out. I assume that you are not familiar with BauHaus either then. Joy Division etc. All worth checking out.

That is fine if you do not believe me and at least you are up front about it ... very Glenn. I can accept that. Perhaps you do not want to believe me ? No matter.

The UN ? Nothing to say ? Nothing original only waiting for a "quote" so you can do your psuedo-clever clever little comment ? Interesting.....

I do not think old laws are dicey rather ... as I said clearly I believe the newer ones which are born of deception and which are farther from the original source "The Constitution" are dicey. You incriminate yourself by not reading or writing or spelling properly. Of course we all make mistake but LOOK AT THE OTHER POSTS... they are generally grammatically superior to yours and your lack of detail, misreading and/or misinterpreting is wearing a bit thin. Copy and Paste are okay but we are all musicians and prefer "original" thought, music and interprtation to just spouting wikileaks, online definitions and such "found" and repetitive copying of select portions of the whole. Ta more coming.
#170418 by Vampier
Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:49 am
One can tell much about the vocabulary of a man regarding his education or lack there of. Also attention to details and ability to rea, understand and retain ... all detail oriented and indicative of the relative IQ of the individual. This is not even addressing the primal urge to beat a stick upon the ground in the form of crass insults.

Take the example of others like Yod and Paper Dog, who exhibit patience and and restraint , detail and understanding along with an open mind not given to simple shallow comments to what others present. Ta More to come
#170422 by JCP61
Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:15 am
Vampier wrote:

That is fine if you do not believe me and at least you are up front about it ... very Glenn. I can accept that. Perhaps you do not want to believe me ? No matter.

The UN ? Nothing to say ? Nothing original only waiting for a "quote" so you can do your psuedo-clever clever little comment ? Interesting.....


You didn't file or pay taxes, that means your income is not from a legal source,
so you expect me to take the opinion of an outlaw who will not respect the duties and taxes that all civilized men have to contend with since time in memorial.
Why then, would I heed you; even before a mexican who just jumped the fence, flouting my country and all those who are law abiding.
You, I submit are the problem.

If you're too lazy to post your point about the UN then I am to ambivalent to respond to it.

oh yes, just to let you know
You are not part of the "rebel alliance", you're in a trailer park in Arizona.
so stop stealing and join the human race.

#170425 by Slacker G
Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:46 pm
"I mean really, this group who can't even get a whore up to the hotel room without getting caught?
gimme a break."


Way funny! :) :)

#170428 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:52 pm
Vamp,

I was at the U.N. yesterday with an alliance of christians and holocaust survivors planning for a march through Manhattan that will end at the UN on April 7th, 2013.

We might not make a dent in the problem...but we're going to try, unlike so many who are asleep.
#170434 by Vampier
Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:15 pm
... continuation of previous post. I do not know the extent of their educations but the vast extent of their thought and reason is obvious. To the casual observer they are displaying an inordinate amount of patience with you much like one does with a spoilt child.

Waco was a fine example of the "abilities" of the government to murder, engage in deceit and hypocrisy as well as commit atrocity ... not a surprise but just another confirmation to those who "think". A blight upon mankind yet again. For those like you it is just another catch phrase to be spewed about which to the uninformed is seen as some sort of justification for the NONTHOUGHT and DULLSPEAK hat is engaged in by many like you.

I understand that what I say may seem like fantasy to some. In truth it is to me an absolute nightmare ...(a fantasy of sorts). I could be wrong I know. You could be wrong as well excepting that you "do not know". So I do not argue or try to convince ... only to state and exemplify. Take or leave it but please try to understand it for your own good. I do not dream to decieve the ignorant and gullible. I speak my thoughts hoping to hear from the intelligent and thinking ... obviously this fails at times.

I enjoy discussion rather than insult, intellect rather than stupidity and action rather than complaint. I have always been a Leader "by example" and have no respect for those who will not get their hands or minds dirty so to speak. I love life, mankind, my Wife and animals. I prefer to be positive rather than negative but always realistic. I listen to my instincts and my spirit or soul for guidance. I prefer to be measured by what I can contribute and give rather than what I can "possess". It is the ancient way not the modern and therefore it lies much closer to the source of mankind. I have many faults however and am actually aware of some of them. I have done horrible things but I regret them ... not boast or rejoice. I try, I fail and at times I succeed. I attempt to control my anger and listen ... to my heart, others, the wind and the waves ...the song of life not death. And obviously I suffer from ego.

You must learn to not just open your mind but your heart. Without an open heart you can not learn anything of real importance or truly have an open mind. Any other thought is pure fallacy and you are fooling yourself ... fooling the fool. Listen to others not particularly me but listen at least to others and think. You are not under attack. I try to compliment you when I can and it is a challenge. There is no need for this. I try to respect your opinions but detest your insults. Ta

#170444 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:00 pm
Speaking of fools....this hit the internet yesterday. Let's see how many fools wake up




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Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery But Disregards ?image? As Indication Of Obama?s Ineligibility
APRIL 13, 2012

Okay, I admit I had to read this a couple times to really let it sink in. How many celebrities, news media big shots, both liberal and conservative have proclaimed the authenticity of Obama?s birth certificate? Look at the attacks suffered by anyone that even mentioned the birth certificate appears to be fraudulent. And now ????..

The following is by Dan Crosby of THE DAILY PEN

NEW YORK, NY ? After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama?s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama?s ineligibility in a court of law.
Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama?s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama?s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is ?irrelevant to his placement on the ballot?.

(yod - please read the bolded statement over and over until you understand that OBAMA'S LAWYER is the one saying it is a fraud and forgery)

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.
At the hearing, attorney for the plaintiffs, Mario Apuzzo, correctly argued that Obama, under the Constitution, has to be a ?natural born Citizen? and that he has not met his burden of showing that he is eligible to be on the New Jersey primary ballot by showing that he is indeed a ?natural born Citizen.? He argued that Obama has shown no authenticate evidence to the New Jersey Secretary of State demonstrating who he is and that he was born in the United States. Apuzzo also argued that as a matter of law, Obama is not a ?natural born Citizen? because he was born to a father who was not a U.S. citizen. (italics steve?s)
As Obama?s legal argument becomes more contorted, he is being forced to avoid an ever shrinking legal space, and an increasing weight, of his failure to meet constitutional eligibility requirements.

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Hill, of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi Attorneys in Newark, made a desperate motion to dismiss the ballot objection arguing that Obama?s lack of natural-born citizenship status was not relevant to being placed on the New Jersey presidential ballot because no law exists in New Jersey which says that a candidate?s appearance on the ballot must be supported by evidence of natural born citizenship status. Only the U.S. constitution restricts eligibility to hold the office of president to natural born citizens.

Judge Masin denied the motion to dismiss and the case proceeded to trial.


?Sadly, regardless of her moral deficiency, Hill is legally justified,? says TDP Editor, Penbrook Johannson, ?Obama's eligibility is a separate matter than the charges of forgery and fraud. Of course, we have evidence that he is not eligible. But, evidence of forgery by as yet unidentified counterfeiters working on behalf of Obama is not what legally excludes Obama from appearing on a ballot, by itself, until some authority is willing to consider this as evidence of forgery on its merit as an indication of actual ineligibility in a court of legal authority. Until some court of competent jurisdiction is willing to hear evidence of forgery and fraud, you can?t legally punish a political candidate for that crime which has not been proven that they committed. However, since Obama is not eligible because of a lack of authenticated evidence to the contrary, he could be held off the ballot for that reason.?

According to Johannson, there is an overwhelming level of moral certainty that Obama is a usurper, but until a court with jurisdiction considers this case, Obama?s status as a legitimate president is in limbo.

"He does not exist as a president except in the imagination of those who blindly support him. Whereas he is politically desired by a transient consensus, his legality is unresolved until a responsible court makes a determination. This is the essence of our crisis. Our nation exists in a state of non-authorized identity. Obama is just some guy calling himself a president and living in the White House without the confirmative authority to do so."

Obama?s document forgery and fraudulent presidency have now forced him to flee to a ?strange twilight zone? between political popularity and legal legitimacy where poorly counterfeited records are apparently allowed to be published by Obama using government media resources for political purposes, yet those same records are held by the courts as irrelevant for determining Obama?s legal eligibility status because they are, according to judges, ?so poorly forged? they are obviously meant to be satirical and not to be taken seriously as evidence.

Shockingly, parting from widespread public ignorance, Hill actually acknowledged two of the three necessary components of determining natural born citizenship as being place of birth and citizenship status of both parents. However, she argued that, ?No law in New Jersey obligated him (Obama) to produce any such evidence in order to get on the primary ballot.?

The third component of natural born eligibility is maintenance of natural born citizenship status from birth to election without interruption, involuntarily or voluntarily, due to expatriation, extradition, renouncement or foreign adoption.

?Obama is mocking our constitution,? says Johannson, ?His position is that he never claimed the image was an indication of his natural born status, just that it was information about his birth. Whether it is forged or authentic is irrelevant to Obama because plausible deniability affords him the security in knowing that no legal authority is willing to hang him with it.?

Of course, Johannson adds that it makes Obama look like a willing accomplice and a liar, but, he says, ??show me a politician who cares about being seen as a liar by the public. If people who support him want to vote for a person like that, it reveals more about the reprobate character of Obama supporters than competency of any legal determination about his lack of constitutional eligibility. Degenerates will vote for a degenerate while patriots will exhaust all civil means to remove him?until those civil means are exhausted. Then things get ugly for government.?

?However, Hill is also essentially admitting that Obama is not a legitimate president and that Obama believes that his illegitimacy does not matter to his legal ability to hold the office. Obama holds to a political tenet, not a legal one with respect to his views on his eligibility. That?s what corrupt, criminal politicians do. When the law convicts them, they run to public favorability for shelter with the hope that their supporters will apply pressure to disregard law in their case.?

Obama is now arguing that because he is politically popular, as he points to as being indicated by his so-called ?election?, despite accusations of eligibility fraud and election fraud, the constitutional eligibility mandate is not relevant, in his view. Until a courageous authority is willing to disagree and hold Obama to an equally weighted legal standard, civil remedies for the Obama problem are limited.

Johannson adds that Obama is making the same argument on behalf of Obamacare.

?If he had the gall to actually tell the Supreme Court that they have no authority to determine the unconstitutionality of his illegitimate policies, what makes anyone think he believes they have the authority to disqualify him due to his lack of constitutional eligibility? Obama believes he holds preeminent power over all branches of government because of his delusions of political grandeur.?

He correctly points to a lifetime pattern of behavior and testimony by Obama which indicates a complete lack of regard for the U.S. Constitution when it restricts Obama?s political agenda and lust for power.

?This is a guy who illegally defaced public property when he scribed his aspirations to be ?king? in a concrete sidewalk at the age of ten, for God?s sake. Now, his ?majesty? wants to put his illegal ?graffiti? into American law books. However, his problem is that he has to face the fact that he is an abject failure in his capacity to meet any standard required by the 250-year-old U.S. Constitution, in everything he tries to do. The Constitution owns him and he can?t stand it. He hates it. Therefore, instead of admitting his lack of constitutionality, he simply breaks the rules and proceeds to illegally scribe his fake authority on everything until someone is willing to physically stop him. Obama is not just an illegitimate politician, he is a rogue outlaw without regard for the divine providence of American law.?

Apuzzo submitted that New Jersey law requires Obama to show evidence that he is qualified for the office he wishes to occupy and that includes showing that he is a ?natural born Citizen,? which includes presenting evidence of who he is, where he was born, and that he was born to two U.S. citizen parents. Apuzzo added that the Secretary of State has a constitutional obligation not to place any ineligible candidates on the election ballot.

The account of the trial can be read at:

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/ ... ng-update/

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off& ... 40&bih=837

#170445 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:00 pm
Speaking of fools....this hit the internet yesterday. Let's see how many fools wake up




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Obama Lawyer Admits Forgery But Disregards ?image? As Indication Of Obama?s Ineligibility
APRIL 13, 2012

Okay, I admit I had to read this a couple times to really let it sink in. How many celebrities, news media big shots, both liberal and conservative have proclaimed the authenticity of Obama?s birth certificate? Look at the attacks suffered by anyone that even mentioned the birth certificate appears to be fraudulent. And now ????..

The following is by Dan Crosby of THE DAILY PEN

NEW YORK, NY ? After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama?s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama?s ineligibility in a court of law.
Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama?s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama?s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is ?irrelevant to his placement on the ballot?.

(yod - please read the bolded statement over and over until you understand that OBAMA'S LAWYER is the one saying it is a fraud and forgery)

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.
At the hearing, attorney for the plaintiffs, Mario Apuzzo, correctly argued that Obama, under the Constitution, has to be a ?natural born Citizen? and that he has not met his burden of showing that he is eligible to be on the New Jersey primary ballot by showing that he is indeed a ?natural born Citizen.? He argued that Obama has shown no authenticate evidence to the New Jersey Secretary of State demonstrating who he is and that he was born in the United States. Apuzzo also argued that as a matter of law, Obama is not a ?natural born Citizen? because he was born to a father who was not a U.S. citizen. (italics steve?s)
As Obama?s legal argument becomes more contorted, he is being forced to avoid an ever shrinking legal space, and an increasing weight, of his failure to meet constitutional eligibility requirements.

stampimage1 (1).jpg


Hill, of Genova, Burn & Giantomasi Attorneys in Newark, made a desperate motion to dismiss the ballot objection arguing that Obama?s lack of natural-born citizenship status was not relevant to being placed on the New Jersey presidential ballot because no law exists in New Jersey which says that a candidate?s appearance on the ballot must be supported by evidence of natural born citizenship status. Only the U.S. constitution restricts eligibility to hold the office of president to natural born citizens.

Judge Masin denied the motion to dismiss and the case proceeded to trial.


?Sadly, regardless of her moral deficiency, Hill is legally justified,? says TDP Editor, Penbrook Johannson, ?Obama's eligibility is a separate matter than the charges of forgery and fraud. Of course, we have evidence that he is not eligible. But, evidence of forgery by as yet unidentified counterfeiters working on behalf of Obama is not what legally excludes Obama from appearing on a ballot, by itself, until some authority is willing to consider this as evidence of forgery on its merit as an indication of actual ineligibility in a court of legal authority. Until some court of competent jurisdiction is willing to hear evidence of forgery and fraud, you can?t legally punish a political candidate for that crime which has not been proven that they committed. However, since Obama is not eligible because of a lack of authenticated evidence to the contrary, he could be held off the ballot for that reason.?

According to Johannson, there is an overwhelming level of moral certainty that Obama is a usurper, but until a court with jurisdiction considers this case, Obama?s status as a legitimate president is in limbo.

"He does not exist as a president except in the imagination of those who blindly support him. Whereas he is politically desired by a transient consensus, his legality is unresolved until a responsible court makes a determination. This is the essence of our crisis. Our nation exists in a state of non-authorized identity. Obama is just some guy calling himself a president and living in the White House without the confirmative authority to do so."

Obama?s document forgery and fraudulent presidency have now forced him to flee to a ?strange twilight zone? between political popularity and legal legitimacy where poorly counterfeited records are apparently allowed to be published by Obama using government media resources for political purposes, yet those same records are held by the courts as irrelevant for determining Obama?s legal eligibility status because they are, according to judges, ?so poorly forged? they are obviously meant to be satirical and not to be taken seriously as evidence.

Shockingly, parting from widespread public ignorance, Hill actually acknowledged two of the three necessary components of determining natural born citizenship as being place of birth and citizenship status of both parents. However, she argued that, ?No law in New Jersey obligated him (Obama) to produce any such evidence in order to get on the primary ballot.?

The third component of natural born eligibility is maintenance of natural born citizenship status from birth to election without interruption, involuntarily or voluntarily, due to expatriation, extradition, renouncement or foreign adoption.

?Obama is mocking our constitution,? says Johannson, ?His position is that he never claimed the image was an indication of his natural born status, just that it was information about his birth. Whether it is forged or authentic is irrelevant to Obama because plausible deniability affords him the security in knowing that no legal authority is willing to hang him with it.?

Of course, Johannson adds that it makes Obama look like a willing accomplice and a liar, but, he says, ??show me a politician who cares about being seen as a liar by the public. If people who support him want to vote for a person like that, it reveals more about the reprobate character of Obama supporters than competency of any legal determination about his lack of constitutional eligibility. Degenerates will vote for a degenerate while patriots will exhaust all civil means to remove him?until those civil means are exhausted. Then things get ugly for government.?

?However, Hill is also essentially admitting that Obama is not a legitimate president and that Obama believes that his illegitimacy does not matter to his legal ability to hold the office. Obama holds to a political tenet, not a legal one with respect to his views on his eligibility. That?s what corrupt, criminal politicians do. When the law convicts them, they run to public favorability for shelter with the hope that their supporters will apply pressure to disregard law in their case.?

Obama is now arguing that because he is politically popular, as he points to as being indicated by his so-called ?election?, despite accusations of eligibility fraud and election fraud, the constitutional eligibility mandate is not relevant, in his view. Until a courageous authority is willing to disagree and hold Obama to an equally weighted legal standard, civil remedies for the Obama problem are limited.

Johannson adds that Obama is making the same argument on behalf of Obamacare.

?If he had the gall to actually tell the Supreme Court that they have no authority to determine the unconstitutionality of his illegitimate policies, what makes anyone think he believes they have the authority to disqualify him due to his lack of constitutional eligibility? Obama believes he holds preeminent power over all branches of government because of his delusions of political grandeur.?

He correctly points to a lifetime pattern of behavior and testimony by Obama which indicates a complete lack of regard for the U.S. Constitution when it restricts Obama?s political agenda and lust for power.

?This is a guy who illegally defaced public property when he scribed his aspirations to be ?king? in a concrete sidewalk at the age of ten, for God?s sake. Now, his ?majesty? wants to put his illegal ?graffiti? into American law books. However, his problem is that he has to face the fact that he is an abject failure in his capacity to meet any standard required by the 250-year-old U.S. Constitution, in everything he tries to do. The Constitution owns him and he can?t stand it. He hates it. Therefore, instead of admitting his lack of constitutionality, he simply breaks the rules and proceeds to illegally scribe his fake authority on everything until someone is willing to physically stop him. Obama is not just an illegitimate politician, he is a rogue outlaw without regard for the divine providence of American law.?

Apuzzo submitted that New Jersey law requires Obama to show evidence that he is qualified for the office he wishes to occupy and that includes showing that he is a ?natural born Citizen,? which includes presenting evidence of who he is, where he was born, and that he was born to two U.S. citizen parents. Apuzzo added that the Secretary of State has a constitutional obligation not to place any ineligible candidates on the election ballot.

The account of the trial can be read at:

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/ ... ng-update/

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off& ... 40&bih=837

#170446 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:01 pm
It's worth repeating


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Obama eligibility lawyer ..... reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama's ineligibility in a court of law.


Obama's lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama?s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is "irrelevant to his placement on the ballot".


Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications,

"He does not exist as a president except in the imagination of those who blindly support him"
Last edited by t-Roy and The Smoking Section on Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
#170447 by Vampier
Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:01 pm
... you simply continue to ridicule yourself. Your "simplistic" and "transperant" statement regarding my income has no basis on reality and is merely the warped product of your anger, frustration and extremely flawed logic. I do rather like your "outlaw" label. It reminds me of Robin Hood and goes very well with "Punk", "Rebel", "Dictator"and "Genius"...all of which have been used to describe me by those who actually know me, know my income, know my work and ethics and have unlike you, a real basis to speak from.

By "civilized men" I assume you mean the nonindependent,gutless, incompetent, frightened, nonthinking, spiritless and ball-less wonders that ponce about littering history with their depraved and retarded offspring ??? Taxes are a recent invention in the history of the world, indeed even more so in the US and are merely just another method of control and means to steal from those who work by those who do not. Duty ? I am afraid that my definition of Duty is much "higher" and light years away from your and it does not include taxes. Yes I am a "problem" for those of your dubious ilk and thank you for te compliment.

The UN. I URGE you to go back and read what I actually stated about wanting to hear what you had to say regarding the UN in relation to what we were discussing. In no way did I indicate that I had a "point" to post ? Your lack of vocabulary, grammar, comprehension and "culture" is superseded by your laziness and lack of understanding and critical thought.

You are correct I was not part of the "Rebel Alliance" ... I was a StormTrooper in Star Wars and a Starship Captain in The Empire Strikes Back. And yet again you show your very dull and basic "colours" ... no pumpkin I am not in a trailer park in Arizona ... I prefer to contribute not steal ... I prefer to engage in my own rewarding activities and not "race" with other crippled humans. How does it feel to have what you state misinterpreted in such simplistic manner ??? Take some upper level insult classes and please start thinking and find your heart. Ta
#170448 by Vampier
Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:16 pm
...Yod, You walk your talk and your path is most definately "the Red Road". I commend you and feel fortunate to have come into contact with you. I knew that the Sherif in Phoenix was going after the validity of Obama and was being thwarted at every possible turn. But wow...this is very very interesting and demonstrates exactly what we all have been trying to say in part. The madness is here and the river is flowing faster and faster now. As the Hopi Elders say...there will be many who try to cling to the shore but you must push of and go with the flow, keep your hea above the water and look around you and see who is there with you...it can be a "good time". Ta

#170458 by JCP61
Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:08 pm
yod wrote:It's worth repeating


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Obama eligibility lawyer ..... reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with mere political support while simultaneously making the image intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence toward proving Obama's ineligibility in a court of law.


Obama's lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama?s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is "irrelevant to his placement on the ballot".


Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications,

"He does not exist as a president except in the imagination of those who blindly support him"


well this is an exelent development, I was quite sure that the Somali import had gotten clean away with the fraud.
lets hope our exelent judicial system carries this forward to completion.
I have faith that it will.
Let's all pray that nothing untoward happens to him and his compatriots until then.

#170467 by JazzAnarchy
Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:52 pm
The arrogant crap in this thread literally made me sick to my stomach.

And it doesn't surprise me that so many people claim the first black president isn't even an American. Most black people don't feel American anyway (if a cat has babies in an oven, that doesn't make them muffins), seeing how we're treated, but I'm disappointed anyway. I'm young enough to be naive, though.

I understand that I shouldn't have "brought race into it," but it's there already.

*braces self for firestorm* :x

Oh, and here's a random "news article" link, for good reference. (These seem to be popular, however irrelevant.)

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/28/se ... d-results/

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