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#168637 by MikeTalbot
Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:16 am
History blurb Texas friends:

Sept 17 1862 was a rough day for the 1st Texas Regiment at Antietam / Sharpsburg.

They were nearly wiped out and lost their colors (flag). Normally that is considered a disgrace but these boys were so brave they didn't give up their flag - they died around it.

General Lee noted that personally.

Talbot

#168641 by gbheil
Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:33 am
My father is fond of saying that

There is a fine line between bravery and ... stupidity. :lol:

#168665 by Starfish Scott
Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:55 pm
MikeTalbot wrote:History blurb Texas friends:

Sept 17 1862 was a rough day for the 1st Texas Regiment at Antietam / Sharpsburg.

They were nearly wiped out and lost their colors (flag). Normally that is considered a disgrace but these boys were so brave they didn't give up their flag - they died around it.

General Lee noted that personally.

Talbot


That's why a LRRP team is ideal, very few stationary encounters.

You get to pick when you fight, not the other way around.

Never forget the "live to fight another day" part.

#168782 by MikeTalbot
Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:57 am
That's all well and good now days. But those boys were using weapons that only became tactically effective if they were massed. ANd if they massed, the men holding them were a nice fat target.

They weren't offered options to skeddadle. All though some always did.

In the end how you die matters. Live to fight another day? Yeah...but not always. Sometimes it is just that time.

Talbot

#168783 by gtZip
Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:04 am
General Lee was an idiot.

Was reborn as a cool car, though.

#168914 by gbheil
Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:19 pm
gtZip wrote:General Lee was an idiot.

Was reborn as a cool car, though.


I as a life long study of the American Civil War totally disagree.
Lee was a masterful tactician caught in a rapidly changing technology of war.
If Grant had had the shortages of men and materials as Lee he'd still be on his knees in front of Lee.

And that's a really crappy way to paint a good car.

#168916 by JCP61
Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:28 pm
sanshouheil wrote:
gtZip wrote:General Lee was an idiot.

Was reborn as a cool car, though.



And that's a really crappy way to paint a good car.




:D now that's the truth!

#168917 by JCP61
Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:29 pm
sanshouheil wrote:
gtZip wrote:General Lee was an idiot.

Was reborn as a cool car, though.


I as a life long study of the American Civil War totally disagree.
Lee was a masterful tactician caught in a rapidly changing technology of war.
If Grant had had the shortages of men and materials as Lee he'd still be on his knees in front of Lee.



true, well except for pickets charge.
that was pretty stupid.

#168918 by gtZip
Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:29 pm
sanshouheil wrote:
gtZip wrote:General Lee was an idiot.

Was reborn as a cool car, though.


I as a life long study of the American Civil War totally disagree.
Lee was a masterful tactician caught in a rapidly changing technology of war.
If Grant had had the shortages of men and materials as Lee he'd still be on his knees in front of Lee.

And that's a really crappy way to paint a good car.


Uhh... Pickets Charge?
'Stupid'
Longstreet told him repeatedly, "Uh, dude... that's a bad idea... Here let's do it this way... it will force them to take their men off of the ridge and come to us."

Then he made Longstreet give the order anyways - which he wouldn't do.

#168927 by gbheil
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:19 am
Much of American Civil War tactic was based on knowledge of the weaponry of the Napoleonic era.
Where massed attack and volley small arms fire were required to gain advantage.

The rifled musket firing a .69 caliber conical slug and reliably ignited by the relatively new percussion cap technology, was by far and away a much more deadly accurate arm, as was the development of cartridge fed repeating arms. The first use of telescopic sights by snipers. Colt, Remington, Mason Richards, LeMatt as well as other produced revolving cylinder rifles and handguns.
Cannon & mortar rounds had also developed beyond the known killing capacity of previous munitions with explosive shells, grape canisters and the utilization of Rifled artillery pieces was wide spread.
The kill ratio was staggering.
This all spawned, late in the war, the trench style of warfare which lasted pretty much unchanged throughout WWI.

#168930 by neanderpaul
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:50 am
sanshouheil wrote:
And that's a really crappy way to paint a good car.

Image

#169114 by gbheil
Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:26 am
Now that's more like it.

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