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#164090 by crunchysoundbite
Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:40 pm
No one really talks about inversion. To speak of inversion you must understand the concept, which I'm sure you do Jw. Problem is, explaining it. I thought of a way to do that combining math and the neck. For instance, a seventh fret major can sound higher than a say 14th fret major in transition because the 7 is a higher number than the 4 in the 14. A lower note can sound higher such as this repetitious practice is demonstrated in REO's - Riding The Storm Out.

#164091 by crunchysoundbite
Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:49 pm
What? No comment? :shock:

#164092 by crunchysoundbite
Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:55 pm
One, one one! ONE! ONe. Testing! Just seeing if the computer generated Bandmix Government is still working. Is this one underlined? I didn't do it. :roll:

#164096 by JCP61
Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:13 pm
what?

#164106 by PaperDog
Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:03 pm
crunchysoundbite wrote:No one really talks about inversion. To speak of inversion you must understand the concept, which I'm sure you do Jw. Problem is, explaining it. I thought of a way to do that combining math and the neck. For instance, a seventh fret major can sound higher than a say 14th fret major in transition because the 7 is a higher number than the 4 in the 14. A lower note can sound higher such as this repetitious practice is demonstrated in REO's - Riding The Storm Out.


I Think My Guitar only has Major frets.... :shock:

Acoustically, if You play the C note on the (high E string) and play the C note
on the B string the E string will sound Higher, because

1) Intonation on thinner strings is higher...
2) and the notes position relative to the bridge factors in. (The closer, The Higher)

If I moved an octive up on the c note (B string) , then #2 kicks in and trumps the E string for higher...

But let us never forget A pound of C notes on E string, weighs no different than a pound of C notes on B string.

#164109 by John Livingston
Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:20 pm
Well, I would have to say that playing to a click is probably the most important thing.


If you have a metronome, rock it man.


I have found after years of practice that soon enough practice becomes a way to identify my own personal style of music.


I guess it depends on what level you are, but I would always recommend exploring the creative side of your methods.

Music Theory is great to help organize things obviously, but when you practice I recommend trying to "move outside the box" and make some UN-orthodox riffs.

If you MUST have free form, all I recommend is a click, and an open mind.


~J

P.S. OOOhhhh... and start your practice sessions with the chromatic scale in 4's. It will help you shake the dust off of the tendons, and really feel much more free to use your hands. (trust me)

Later.

#164114 by Lynard Dylan
Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:50 pm
Hear Crunch I'll explain it to you
Inversion a chord is made up of
3 notes a triad, a tonic note, a
major or minor 3rd and a fifth
in basic triads thats a I III V,
change the order of the notes
III V I first inversion
V I III second inversion
with seventh chords another note
is added so more inversions are
possible.

Standard notation has been around
a long time.

#164115 by Starfish Scott
Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:27 pm
Lynard Dylan wrote:Hear Crunch I'll explain it to you
Inversion a chord is made up of
3 notes a triad, a tonic note, a
major or minor 3rd and a fifth
in basic triads thats a I III V,
change the order of the notes
III V I first inversion
V I III second inversion
with seventh chords another note
is added so more inversions are
possible.

Standard notation has been around
a long time.


Wow, you don't know it Lynard but you just connected a very large chunk I didn't completely understand. I still am fuzzy, but I think I get what you are talking about now.. thank you.

#164131 by MikeTalbot
Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:18 am
Over the years I've experimented with holding the guitar (or bass) at different positions.

I finally figured it out. My right hand wants to be pretty lose, thus hold it low; my left hand wants easy access to all frets - thus hold it high.

The middle has the bridge pickup on my strat equal to the center of my belt buckle. It varies slightly with other guitars and bass.

Robert Truillo is bass player in Metallica and holds his axe down around his knees. That's got to hurt in the long run. But he is pulling his weight for now!

Talbot

#164134 by PaperDog
Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:28 am
Lynard Dylan wrote:Hear Crunch I'll explain it to you
Inversion a chord is made up of
3 notes a triad, a tonic note, a
major or minor 3rd and a fifth
in basic triads thats a I III V,
change the order of the notes
III V I first inversion
V I III second inversion
with seventh chords another note
is added so more inversions are
possible.

Standard notation has been around
a long time.


I'll be darned... Didn t know that...But Now I can see where that's handy in piano playing...

#164136 by gbheil
Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:41 am
I don't even own an acoustic and refuse to "practice" outside the tones and distortion levels I'll be using in the shows.

I absolutely agree with the muscular memory theory as I've seen it in use as a martial artist for decades.

That said I've seen guys practice endlessly on complicated maneuvers especially throws.
My teaching philosophy was simple.
If you cannot reliably execute a technique on an opponent that's buck naked and covered with Vaseline you will never make it work in the streets.

Same goes for music IMO.

Do what you need to do so that when the time comes to perform ... you will.

#164155 by Lynard Dylan
Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:56 pm
Think about inversions Dog, some of the
all-time great guitar players used this
technique to make their chords voice out
differently.eg play a Achord with one
finger barring, use another finger and
play the C#, the 2nd not in a A chord,
play with the C# as the bass note it sounds
different, same notes different order.

#164174 by John Livingston
Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:14 pm
sanshouheil wrote:I don't even own an acoustic and refuse to "practice" outside the tones and distortion levels I'll be using in the shows.

I absolutely agree with the muscular memory theory as I've seen it in use as a martial artist for decades.

That said I've seen guys practice endlessly on complicated maneuvers especially throws.
My teaching philosophy was simple.
If you cannot reliably execute a technique on an opponent that's buck naked and covered with Vaseline you will never make it work in the streets.

Same goes for music IMO.

Do what you need to do so that when the time comes to perform ... you will.



Greased up and buck naked huh?.... *shifts his eyes suspiciously at you* ....I hope you practice martial arts with women lol.

#164177 by Starfish Scott
Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:25 pm
Johnmchakeres wrote:
sanshouheil wrote:I don't even own an acoustic and refuse to "practice" outside the tones and distortion levels I'll be using in the shows.

I absolutely agree with the muscular memory theory as I've seen it in use as a martial artist for decades.

That said I've seen guys practice endlessly on complicated maneuvers especially throws.
My teaching philosophy was simple.
If you cannot reliably execute a technique on an opponent that's buck naked and covered with Vaseline you will never make it work in the streets.

Same goes for music IMO.

Do what you need to do so that when the time comes to perform ... you will.



Greased up and buck naked huh?.... *shifts his eyes suspiciously at you* ....I hope you practice martial arts with women lol.


Of course he does, he's married.

#164191 by gbheil
Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:51 pm
LOL

Yeah I know ... out of the context it does sound kind of funny.

Taken in context the point is valid ... only that you know instinctively will occur under the pressure of a live performance.

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