General Music Chat

I'm not the best singer in the world,but
I find I start weak and finish strong on most
songs, but I've always sang a lot alot of lead
in all the bands I've ever been in. How can I
start stronger?

The only person that takes it harder then singers
are songwriter's, so you see singer/songwriter's
watchout. Nobody can judge singing. I think
Bob Dylan is the greatest singer/songwriter of
all time, my old lady hates him(so that's all we
listen to in my truck). My little brother is a master
musician on several instruments, he came into my
room and I'm listening to Beggars Banquet, and he says
that guy can't sing at all, go figure

I'm no vocalist but Ray has vastly improved using the "singing success" program.
He is diligent about warming up with his vocal exercises before a show.
He will sit in his car or something to get away from other because it sounds goofy as hell when he does them ... but he swears by his warm up.

Makes sense to me. Singing after all is a physical performance.
All physical performances are smother and stronger after an appropriate warm up.

it would be difficult to say without hearing you sing.

Dylan, I have found that my most important singing skill is knowing
within the spectrum of keys, where MY voice fits best in any particular song.
Each song has its highs and lows. Sometimes certain words the way you pronounce them while singing affects whether you can hit the note or not properly. Knowing these intrcacies of your individual voice and how to manipulate them determines your level of skill. I think I was lucky learning to sing Country because it has so many variences and textures and bending of sylables.[/b]

I'm the best singer who walks the Earth. Not being facetious either. If you have that attitude your singing will be strong start to finish.

FBob

i have a tune I'm working up that i keep saying i want somebody else to sing but for once I'm lying. Realized recently that it's my song in more ways than usual. I actually like the way I sing it. That's a big thing for me - I'm not much of a singer but as a songwriter i can't avoid it.

It's like you said - I'm the best. (in this one instance anyway)

Talbot

Dylan, I have found that my most important singing skill is knowing
within the spectrum of keys, where MY voice fits best in any particular song.
Each song has its highs and lows. Sometimes certain words the way you pronounce them while singing affects whether you can hit the note or not properly. Knowing these intrcacies of your individual voice and how to manipulate them determines your level of skill. I think I was lucky learning to sing Country because it has so many variences and textures and bending of sylables.[/b]

BINGO!

Hey yod, your BAD COMPANY influence is undeniable on "Breathe Into Me".
The Rodgers style helps too. Great stuff all 3.[/b]

Thanks for the input, I'll look into the
"singing success" program, and my
warmup techniques are lacking and in
need of work.
FBob it's hard for me to think that when
I already know I'm the best guitar player
in the world(and starting to become a great
piano player), surely a man can't be that blessed
to be the best at all 3.
Klug, I wrote down "within the spectum of keys,
where my voice fits best in any particular song"
I'm not sure I fully understand that statement
but I will study on it. I consider you one of the
better singers on the forum, and I agree with
just about everything Mr. Yod says, and he agrees
with you, so there must be something there I'm
missing.

What I would like to improve on is, having the
singing at the start of the song be as strong and
on key as the end of the song. Sometimes I can
hear myself a 1/2/ step off at the start, then hit
the pitch by at least the chorus. I want each performance
to be as good as that one in a million take where you
just hit everything right. I guess just more consistency,
at a higher level, some things require more than
just practice.
Still I don't think I get your statement "my most important
singing skill is knowing within the spectrum of keys, where
my voice fits best in any particular song." Let me study
that statement and get back to you, I'm so into theory
on instruments but lack theory to apply to my voice. I
bought a acoustic guitar tuner and try to hit the notes
with my voice one at a time and hold them on key.
I've worked on my singing as hard as I have my guitar
and piano playing, but not satisfied with the results of
my singing, yet. It doesn't stop me from getting out there
and doing it tho, I kinda hide my singing behind my guitar
playing, cause I have supreme confidence in my guitar
playing abilities, I'd like to get there with my singing.

Before I do a tune, I'll try to sing it 5x to myself.

If figure when I hit the mic, I'll start a little stronger than if I started cold.

It's like the dragster, when you see the lights you better be ready to go or you will be by yourself at the starting line when the smoke clears.

I'm taking voice lessons and I will never regret it.

There are so many things that we do subconsciously that is terrible for our instrument (voice).

Professional vocalist remain taking lessons for their career because it is very easy to revert back to bad tactics. I am no where near professional yet.

You know AV I took some lessons on the
internet from a guy named Ken Tamplin I
believe, and the man is a hell of a singer.
It just didn't work for me, I'm trying to stylize
kinda of a southern rock, gospel, country, folk,
sounding voice mixed into one, trying being
the keyword. I'm going to try the one Sans
mentioned.
Lessons in general are against my religion, I'm
self taught on all instruments, and music theory
and standard notation. I pull alot of info off of
the internet, lyrics, licks, etc...

I cant sing worth a sh*t, but man I can sure fake it... ... All I gotta do is deliver my lyric with as much heart as is suitable for the song... I have recently discovered the truth about 100 takes on a vocal track... Man, that's some real work....

Nope, you're not the best singer.
Or the best guitarist.

So what?

I'd say put together some sort of warm up ritual, and see if anything changes.

Thanks Klugmo...much appreciated. I always tried to sing like Plant but it came out Rogers instead.


Lynard, I seriously think you ought to do some kind of a comedy-rock show. If your "act" was more comedy than rock, your voice would be a plus and you could be as big as you want. Everyone wants to laugh, even when they don't want to rock.

just a thought...