General Music Chat

There you go with your annoying facts. Thanks Dizz!

I was one of those who bought "I Wanna Hold You Hand", it cost 67 cents at KMart and I gave it to my cousin for his birthday.

I'm only gonna put the work into one of these.

the population of the US in 1964 was 191,888,791. "I Want to hold your hand" sold 5 million copies in the US. The population of the U.S. in 2009 was 305,529,237. Tik Tok sold 5.33 million copies in the US. (PierceG's 12.8 million number is worldwide.)

2.6% of the US population bought "I want to Hold your Hand".
1.7% of the U.S. population bought "Tik Tok".

The Beatles sold more, adjusted for population growth.

That's how it's done, brother! Did you major in Economics, as well?

There you go with your annoying facts. Thanks Dizz!

I was one of those who bought "I Wanna Hold You Hand", it cost 67 cents at KMart and I gave it to my cousin for his birthday.

Duuyammm...67 cents... Man I remember that! CIgarettes were 25 cents a pack and I was actually living in Wurzburg Germany when 'I wanna hold your hand' came out... That record was all the rave over there... And I aint kiddin when I tell you that later that year, lots of kids at my brother's high school were showing up to school in their Beatle- wigs, LOL!

I get the buzz on Beiber. Donny Osmond and all. He worked hard, developed skills, the girls love him. He made a way to success at an early age. I can't knock him for that. I don't have to listen to it. That's my joy. Only in America used to mean something. I can only hope it still does. Ever seen him play the drums? Yeah, he can pound 'em down. More skill doing just that than any of the kids I've seen. Why shouldn't he have fame and fortune. He is also humble, even though he produces @%#! like Baby Baby Baby. People buy it therefore, he has built the better mousetrap, hence, graduating business 101.

I was too young to have bought wanna hold yer hand, but we had a floor modle fan that me and my brothers used to do the chorus of Shake it up baby now into. That was fun and my first electrified experience. Other young experiences I've had was plugging in the tv with my fingers on the prongs. I was 4. Some things you never forget.

Nope. I'm a Music Production major. Econ's just a hobby. (How backwards is that? )

I'm the one who is backwards. College had to have been an awesome experience for you, and was very boring for me except for the occasional deep statistical analysis into a subject of great interest to me.

!3. It sucks. Show me the latest thing that inspired you in a new way.

The single most disappointing fact about music, for me, was when I discovered that women weren't really gonna throw themselves at me like they did for the big band names, no matter how well I played & sang.

I'm very bitter about that.

As far as the article is concerned - I always knew that mine was, & remains, the only generation that ever had any taste...but even we had Lief Garret, Donny Osmond, & Bobby Sherman...ugh!

The single most disappointing fact about music, for me, was when I discovered that women weren't really gonna throw themselves at me like they did for the big band names, no matter how well I played & sang.

Interesting. I actually have had the experience where women threw themselves at me because I was in the band. In a two-bit bar band. I have several friends who have as well. It was, um, awesome?

Here's the thing.

What kind of women throw themselves at the bass player in a two-bit bar band? Think about it for a minute. Also, what kind of bars were these? I'll tell ya, these were not always the nicest places. So think again about my first question.

Are these women you actually want to have throwing themselves at you? Hint: Contrary to popular perception, condoms are not perfect protection form AIDs.

That being said, not all of the women I met this way were complete scum. But the decent people in the group were definitely the exceptions. Most of the decent women I met in bars as a result of being in bands were friendly, but not throwing themselves at me.

If you strive to be a musician for women, drugs, money, fame or a place in history you have already failed. The best music is done purely for the sake of music. It should first please the music maker, and then possibly some audience. The other side of the coin are people like Bach, who wrote music to please God but at the same time had to support a large family.

If you strive to be a musician for women, drugs, money, fame or a place in history you have already failed. The best music is done purely for the sake of music.

I agree in principle, but music is an interactive art. The audience is a part of the art. That makes it important for your music to connect with an audience. But it also makes it important that the music is honest.

I've always felt that the best musical performances communicate something to the audience of the musician that can't be communicated any other way. That connection, when well done, can be very powerful in my experience.

A huge mistake I see musicians making, though, is to assume that to achieve that connection requires pandering to the lowest common denominator in the audience. It's certainly true that if you're trying to connect to a disco crowd and you're playing neo-progressive rock it's not going to work out, but I think any audience wants to be surprised a little.

For that disco crowd, play some hard-core James Brown as well as the Donna Summer stuff.

If you're playing all originals it's even harder because it's very easy to become self-indulgent. At that point, the art dies, IMO.

I've never been clear why, but in my experience the surest way for a musician to fail in all these things is to think of himself as an artist. Trying to be an artist kills their art.

If you strive to be a musician for women, drugs, money, fame or a place in history you have already failed. The best music is done purely for the sake of music. It should first please the music maker, and then possibly some audience.

Profound to be sure..

Too bad the large majority of people do not understand this concept.

And for argument sake, I contend the audience is a non-entity in the scope of things, I.e. either they like it or they don't, it doesn't matter to the musician.

"The show must go on".

The single most disappointing fact about music, for me, was when I discovered that women weren't really gonna throw themselves at me like they did for the big band names, no matter how well I played & sang.

Interesting. I actually have had the experience where women threw themselves at me because I was in the band. In a two-bit bar band. I have several friends who have as well. It was, um, awesome?

Here's the thing.

What kind of women throw themselves at the bass player in a two-bit bar band? Think about it for a minute. Also, what kind of bars were these? I'll tell ya, these were not always the nicest places. So think again about my first question.

Are these women you actually want to have throwing themselves at you? Hint: Contrary to popular perception, condoms are not perfect protection form AIDs.

That being said, not all of the women I met this way were complete scum. But the decent people in the group were definitely the exceptions. Most of the decent women I met in bars as a result of being in bands were friendly, but not throwing themselves at me.

I've not had women throw themselves at me (yet) but I would imagine the skank factor would be kinda high. In some Countries, its also best to check the authenticity of their feminine persuasion...

The audience is a part of the art. That makes it important for your music to connect with an audience. But it also makes it important that the music is honest.

This is very well stated... I wholly agree. In fact I would contend that any successful musical artist, is first and foremost an entertainer, bent on pleasing a crowd. If you think about it, why would we be in the business of it...To me, IMO The whole point of music is to entertain and leave audiences feeling better off (if only to be amused or maybe slightly jazzed from the experience) . Anything else would just be self -indulgent. However, we also need to be self-indulgent sometimes...Its what keeps it alive for us...