General Music Chat

I’m sure you’ve noticed that mics have changed everything. But most voice teachers and vocal coaches train you without them, as if the acoustic world of Opera and Theater were still popular. Even musical theater uses mics now. Training the voice for acoustical venues, such as; Opera and Theater is an Apple. Training the voice for a mic is an Orange. The effect, the singer has on a mic and amplification, are paramount to what the listener hears.
In electronics there is a graph titled “The Munson Curve”. It explains how frequencies of different Hz, effect the human ear via electronic amplification. If this is not considered during training, the application of the voice will less than attractive, such as; a poorly designed synth.

We at Sing From Feel Studio have been trained in natural voice technique, electronics and acoustics. Therefore, the mic, the amplification (even in the recording studio) and the acoustics of modern venues are considered, in the singing technique we teach. Also the monitoring system; live or in the studio; have to be considered. If one cannot hear themselves effectively, they probably don’t want anyone else to either!
Singers who cannot hear themselves are in fact tone deaf. It’s simple to prove. Record your voice while you can hear yourself and then record yourself when you are drowned out by the music and you will hear the difference. If you have ever performed when you couldn’t hear yourself in the past; you can be embarrassed now.

Thats a lot of bull, If you can't hear yourself and know what you are singing than you are not a singer.

I don't know about you but when I have to tell the bass to pull up his d string or the guitar that his b string is way out and that you back up singers better backup because you are so out....

Even toms can go out.

You have to know where the whole band is even if the monitors are down and everyone is 15 cent down.

come on dude get real, are you going to put on a show or spend the whole night tuning.

As far as vocals, OOOHHH ,scary thought, Great singers help keep the band in tune even if the monitors suck, and I mean great singers.

To many "musicians" have tuners. TFB.

Oh say can you see. I love that song.

I just need to hear SOMETHING of my voice and I'm good to go. I don't need a perfect monitor mix. I don't need perfect EQ in the PA mix. I just need something. Most of the venues I perform at are not quite as fussy as...say Carnegie Hall. I imagine I'm right on tune probably well over 90% of the time. It's not that critical considering the audiences we play for. One of my biggest vocal influences was a very good blues singer in a band I was with years ago. He told me to "swallow the damn mic" and "move air out of the speakers." Good advice, it works for me. I tell newby singers to not be afraid of the mic. Just sing your ass off and see what happens. Analyzing things can lead to paralysis. Paralysis by analysis.

Bob I bet you are closer to being right on ,,,,,, than Ivory soap. SMILE!!!!!!!

I just need to hear SOMETHING of my voice and I'm good to go. I don't need a perfect monitor mix. I don't need perfect EQ in the PA mix. I just need something. Most of the venues I perform at are not quite as fussy as...say Carnegie Hall. I imagine I'm right on tune probably well over 90% of the time. It's not that critical considering the audiences we play for. One of my biggest vocal influences was a very good blues singer in a band I was with years ago. He told me to "swallow the damn mic" and "move air out of the speakers." Good advice, it works for me. I tell newby singers to not be afraid of the mic. Just sing your ass off and see what happens. Analyzing things can lead to paralysis. Paralysis by analysis.

Your comments are more reasonable. But I still suggest you record your experiences. Hearing yourself well, does not mean analyzing. That does destroy the feel. It simply keeps your nervous system from panicing and forceing your voice out of tune. If you want to have discussions that are meaningful. Do some research. Imagining your voice is on tune=ingnorance is bliss.

Glen

I agree with most of your post. However, tuners. For years I put up inconsiderate guitar players, noisy drummers and my own blown ear trying to tune up by ear. no more.

Half the players I've met that are 45 or older, have hearing problems. For me that has meant it takes me a bit longer to tune up than it used to and i begrudge that time.

Last week I played with some very together folks. We all plugged in, looked around to our tuners and 30 seconds later we are set. The tape proved the tunings to be spot on.

Everyone was responsible for their instrument - no body hollered give me an E!

Talbot

For a singer tuning is a constant. It doesn't take much to distract
my attention from the song. One instrument can be off and
distract me. I like to sing in a rut. Meaning everything is the same
every time. I practice to recordings so everything is the same
every time. The only time I am satisfied with my vocal is when I
have sung as good as the recording. [/b]

Brad Chapman,,,

Lets post something more realistic like some live tracks that backup all your bad ass bullshit talk. You have no audio up.

Mean while one of the people ( I kinda like) Chaeya just posted a couple of tunes from their show. I know from hearing the mix it was not an easy gig to sing. The band was dead on and I can tell the little adjustments they were making. Some of them were based on Chaeya.

I get really tired of people that CAN'T STAY IN TUNE WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

You have the balls to call me not so reasonable. Fisherman Bob is great because he can play in tune and even keep GREAT TIME.

What you got a teaching gig going on? It's time you sat down with some real players.
Put some music up Brad.

Posers can tell you everything you need to know about the art of music... they just can't actually do it!