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It took four days to think of a response to this? Anyway, a perfect vacuum is not practically achieved, therefore when physicists speak of vacuums they are referring to a partial vacuum. The rest of your post is less comprehensible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum

When physicists speak of vacuum they speak of negative pressure. As for four days, it is a dead- put words in other peoples mouths topic, wonder you got any response at all. Look up Vacuum. See what it tells you. Once you do that look up leprechauns in the Christian Bible. You will find I was right in both cases where I said I was! It was an angry attack at best!

Hey! You didn't include us Luciferians!! LOL!!
We don't care what's in the Box - Only what's 'not' in the Box

Don't you all see what you have done. You have all filled this box with your own ideas and beliefs.
Unfortunately you have all changed my mind, I never thought there was a box to begin with,,,
But since you have all filled it with your thoughts, then now, there truly must be a box.

Strange.....

The box is half empty>? Or is it half full of SPAM from bandmix? lol


I think it has stinky spam in it, hold the mustard.

Given a sealed box, the atheist insists the box is empty. The Christian says the box contains a leprechaun. The agnostic says it's possible the box contains a leprechaun, but the odds are very, very, very slight and that there's no way to ever get the box open so it's pointless to speculate.

The Christian doctrine says God reveals himself, and that the agnostic / atheist suppresses that revelation. So this analogy isn't a good one if you're trying to represent these belief systems.

God reveals Himself? The casual observer would say He is better at hiding.

Please don't make the mistake of lumping the atheist in with the agnostic. This undermines any valid point you might make.

God reveals Himself? The casual observer would say He is better at hiding.

Please don't make the mistake of lumping the atheist in with the agnostic. This undermines any valid point you might make.

God reveals Himself. That has always been the Christian doctrine, being specifically stated in the bible in a myriad of places - two of which I quote below. Whether you agree with the Bible or not is irrelevant. I'm pointing out that your analogy is a straw man from the Christian's perspective.

I'm not lumping agnostics and atheists together - the Bible is, based on their common disbelief, which is due to their common suppression of this revelation.

Romans 1:18-21
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Romans 2:14-15
14For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

Given a sealed box, the atheist insists the box is empty. The Christian says the box contains a leprechaun. The agnostic says it's possible the box contains a leprechaun, but the odds are very, very, very slight and that there's no way to ever get the box open so it's pointless to speculate.

The Christian doctrine says God reveals himself, and that the agnostic / atheist suppresses that revelation. So this analogy isn't a good one if you're trying to represent these belief systems.

Where the heck does it say that in any scripture?

Crunchy I think your wrong on the negative pressure thing.
Negative pressure is like pulling water thru a pipe,
while postive pressure is pushing water thru a pipe.
A vacuum gauge measures the pull
An air pressure gauge measures the push.
A vacuum is the state right between the two.
So theoretically a vacuum does exist,
your post shows you believe it!
If God doesn't exist he sure is a good subject to write a song about

lol Yikes

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