General Music Chat

So, what I think we can all learn from artists ala Bob is: that to sing successfully from feeling, we must first, memorize, memorize, memorize, pay our dues and never think of any thing but the lyric or story we are feeling. And the best part, is that it all comes from our internal drive and desire to enjoy music and art. If we are forced to sing or play, it will not be art.

Some call it practice, practice, practice. I call it play, play, play!

Hearing someone realize that feel is the way for a singer to be good is like hearing that someone realized that racism is wrong. Really? You are just now getting this?

Few singers are more repulsive than Dylan. The only way I could know his songs were good is if someone else sang them.

It's like someone handing you a slice of key lime pie that had the sugar replaced with salt. It would be good if you could just get past the salt. Well I personally am blinded by the salt, by his voice. It's far too repulsive to get past.

But if a singer sings off key no amount of feel will compensate. Both are critical.

It took me a while to get used to the Dylan tone of voice... But I finally got there. I fell absolutely in love with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKShNYsclLU

(Came out about the same time i was getting my teeth kicked in by a woman... ). There are just so many layers of brilliance in this song (For me) ... and nobody but Dylan (his voice) could have pulled this off... (Just my own opinion) .

Don't like that one BUT you reminded me of one I do like! Same album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQsRgQXgQY
And I do like lay lady lay. To me it never sounded like anything else he did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQsRgQXgQY

Don't like that one BUT you reminded me of one I do like! Same album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQsRgQXgQY
And I do like lay lady lay. To me it never sounded like anything else he did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQsRgQXgQY

Yep That was a goodun also

So, what I think we can all learn from artists ala Bob is: that to sing successfully from feeling, we must first, memorize, memorize, memorize, pay our dues and never think of any thing but the lyric or story we are feeling. And the best part, is that it all comes from our internal drive and desire to enjoy music and art. If we are forced to sing or play, it will not be art.

Some call it practice, practice, practice. I call it play, play, play!

You got my point exactly.

My Bob Dylan epiphany: I have considered myself a singer since the age of 14. When I heard Bob sing in the 60s, I thought, what's a terrible singer like him doing on the air? We'll folks about 5 years ago: I got it. Bob sings with such incredibe feel, that most listeners just hear that. About 2 years ago Bob was voted as one of the top 10 singers of all time by Rolling Stone magazine and I once again, I got it.So before the above epiphany occured, I would teach technique and leave it at that. Now I teach that feel is King and technique is Queen. We find that when a singer is internally thinking, "am I on pitch, will I be able to hit the high note at the end of the song, etc. Their is no or little feel. Please stay tuned!

If its all about the feel, and if Dylan pulled it off, then whu would somebody need voice lessons?...unless they were just flat tone def...in which case, couls that even be helped...?

Yea, my point is that voice lessons can only help, if the feel is promoted. If not, the student becomes just another technical robot. If a singer can't find pitch; then they must first play catch up until they can. I have never actually met a truly tone deaf person. It seems that they just didn't really listen to pitch when they were younger.