General Music Chat

If you can't hit it without the aid of an auto tuner, just cut your own throat.

Need a lyrics tuner? if you forget the words just push a button and it will fill in the blanks for ya. Forgot the key change at the chorus? no problem, just push the button and the hologram player will take your place.

I think musicians are responsible for some of the mediocrity one encounters. How many times as someone told me I'm nuts for playing original? no money there, no gigs blah blah.

I don't fault the cover players but if someone doesn't write and perform originals they'll still be playing "taking care of business" in their gig at the old folks home.

New music must come from us.

cheers
Talbot

I'm with you. It can be harder to find gigs at times because there are venues that just will not take a chance. We have found some that do, and we always seem to add some fans.

To those of you who create music, just keep it up. It is so much more satisfying than covering someone else's creativity.

RG

that hologram player sounds useful - you could slip out, get a drink and come back feeling ready.

And you could have him use the lyrics tuner top write you some neat tunes!

Talbot

Very good points to all of you. There is great truth to the one guy who said that there are only 12 notes on a guitar and we are only capable of creating new ways of making the old music. And I would also have to agree with the person who said genre-dictating has poisoned music to an extent. The genre-dictating thing is especially true in smaller towns. The town I come in has a small Metal scene. But everybody that's into Metal plays the same kind of Metal (Death/Grindcore). I personally hate this style. But everybody in this town wants to be the next great band. And I went to a local band expo showcasing the cream of the crop..And all the bands sounded the same!!! Not only that but if you go to channels like Music Choice Metal and sit there for about 30 mins., you will also hear about 10 bands that sound the same over and over again. There's no originality anymore. People just look at me weird because I play guitar solos. Nobody in this town does that anymore! I mention bands like Judas Priest and Saxon and nobody has clue who I'm talking about. Everybody's afraid to step out of the social circle and do something different. Trendseeking gives you security and a failsafe. That is something I'll never do. Even if MALEVOLENT FORCE has to be a one-man project the next 20 years, I would rather have individuality and integrity in my music than anything a commercial excutive could pay me.
And that's my piece on it....

Oh man! Everytime that I mention that I play Metal most people seem to assume that I'm into the newest triggered, downtuned, vampire bat screams that go into a 5 year olds impression of a monster type-of-music. And if I mention that I like to play a little lead, then I'm a technical sweep-picker and a mad tapper. When in reality, I'm big time on the rhthyms and riffs, with a lot of chord experimentation. My leads consist of stretched fingers alternating to fast picking...followed by some bluesy scales and a bar chord for extra hair. I've gone as far as to say that my music was Experimental/Crossover lately because I think Progressive/Thrash gives people the wrong expectations. My goal is to shuffle things around and try to put out some different moods.

Some(not all) people have forgotten that good Metal has a lot more to do with just a lot of gain. It's so much easier to make your sound heavy than to make heavy riffs.

Don't get me started on Music Choice!

A self playing self tuning guitar that tracks synthesized vocals would be nice. Something that reads typed lyrics and sings them. That and one of those Sony robot men.
I could have it take my gear to the gig, set it up and play for 4 hours. Then it could pack up and bring the money home to me. Then I could save up for another system just like it and just start raking in the big bucks.

I wonder if they'll ever have a lobotomized version for some of todays music?

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Oh man! Everytime that I mention that I play Metal most people seem to assume that I'm into the newest triggered, downtuned, vampire bat screams that go into a 5 year olds impression of a monster type-of-music. And if I mention that I like to play a little lead, then I'm a technical sweep-picker and a mad tapper. When in reality, I'm big time on the rhthyms and riffs, with a lot of chord experimentation. My leads consist of stretched fingers alternating to fast picking...followed by some bluesy scales and a bar chord for extra hair. I've gone as far as to say that my music was Experimental/Crossover lately because I think Progressive/Thrash gives people the wrong expectations. My goal is to shuffle things around and try to put out some different moods.

Some(not all) people have forgotten that good Metal has a lot more to do with just a lot of gain. It's so much easier to make your sound heavy than to make heavy riffs.

Don't get me started on Music Choice!
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What defines metal ... we will never know.

Slacker, you need this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atKD-lNB27U

It won't track anything though..lol

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Oh man! Everytime that I mention that I play Metal most people seem to assume that I'm into the newest triggered, downtuned, vampire bat screams that go into a 5 year olds impression of a monster type-of-music. And if I mention that I like to play a little lead, then I'm a technical sweep-picker and a mad tapper. When in reality, I'm big time on the rhthyms and riffs, with a lot of chord experimentation. My leads consist of stretched fingers alternating to fast picking...followed by some bluesy scales and a bar chord for extra hair. I've gone as far as to say that my music was Experimental/Crossover lately because I think Progressive/Thrash gives people the wrong expectations. My goal is to shuffle things around and try to put out some different moods.

Some(not all) people have forgotten that good Metal has a lot more to do with just a lot of gain. It's so much easier to make your sound heavy than to make heavy riffs.

Don't get me started on Music Choice!

What defines metal ... we will never know. [/quote]

That argument will never die.

Know what would be cool? If you could purchase virtual robots as band members. They would not only play everything you programmed in, but would come with official personality software. You could make them A-sexual so they wouldn't steal all the chicks.

How do they do that?
I mean, when you hear a singer in most songs these days, it sound as though there is some effect on a voice, that wobbles it? That's the best description I can find really.

So... How do they do that?

When rap came along, no one recognized it as RAP. It took a while for that to become a Genre'. It started as ROCK. People say Steven Tyler started rap with Mamma Kin. NOT! Sorry to do this to you folks, but I don't know the name of the band, help with that if you can. Any one remember the song "Life is a rock, (but the radio rolled me)." That song came out long before. I would bet someone could find a sample long before my example and say Homer and Jethro did it first! DO WHATCHA DO WHATCHA DO WHATCHA DO

This would be easy, take a vinyl recording, put the disc on a turntable and listen to it reproducing sound from someone else's skills and call it your own. Nah, Scratch that!

Rap or chanting is very old, but it could become one of those arguments like "what is metal." If you remember the Beats from the 50s, they did spoken word to music, Bob Dylan did "Subterranean Homesick Blues" which was basically a rap song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4O2-nsFBA

Chaeya

I agree Cheaya. Nothing is new, it's just how we change it around, to make it our own in many cases.
Which kinda screws up the copyright gang in that American office, who charge, and cannot get a certificate to you in over two years.

I still haven't got mine, I won't lose sleep over it either
Keep well all.

Rap or chanting is very old, but it could become one of those arguments like "what is metal." If you remember the Beats from the 50s, they did spoken word to music, Bob Dylan did "Subterranean Homesick Blues" which was basically a rap song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4O2-nsFBA

Chaeya

I listened to the Top 40 here last weekend. The whole Top 40 in fact.
What struck me, in all that time. Is that, ok it was dance music, I love dance music too. But it all sounded the same for the most part.

The one thing that made it mostly sound the same, was computer altered vocals. You really couldn't tell one artist from another in all honesty.

That's not to say there were not good tracks, there were many. But I doubt I would know one from the other in a Music store, if I had to explain what they sounded like.

1. Does the fact that most vocals are computer altered in some genres mean that the artist themselves are shooting themselves in the foot?

2. Does it even matter if they are charted?

3. Does this mean that apart from the catchy tune, its all about looks and videos now?

A voice used to mean everything, is it the same today?

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Pounding tempo, alarming hooks and name attachment seem to me to be the recipe for hit songs now. GAGAs new song that says
"I'm still in Love with Judas baby" is a good example of alarming hooks.
That line burns a lot of people and draws attention to the song and album.[/b]