General Music Chat

why is it that you go through a profile see a guitarist that is looking for exactly what you`re doing,they/you know it will be a perfect fit but they won`t respond or if they do do the first thing they`ll ask is do you already have a guitarist?hell i`ve run across several that won`t play with a keyboard player,pure bloody ego.so what happens when you play live and there`s a guitar solo?it sounds empty thats what.satch uses a second guitarist live,priest,scorps,yngvie has keys.i have seen so many guys on band for over a year that are still looking and getting doing so.what some people don`t understand is that you sometimes have to form alliances.thats why it`s called a band,we have banded together.please give your thoughts on this one.

Not a problem I have run into actually. Almost all the guitarists I have talked to about the new project I am working on want to play rhythm and have a lead player for solos.

I found a guy willing to cover both so now working with him to see if he is a good fit. I play aggressively enough to fill the dead space when he leaps into a solo, and we will be adding a keyboardist/sampler if we can find the right person.

Two words: volume wars!

I love jamming with other guitarists, but as far as a proper band goes, I'll pass. I much prefer a three piece, but I'll take a keyboard player, and horns or strings before another guitar player.

I'm thinking about finding another guitar player as I start assembling an outfit but my preference would be somebody who plays violin and / or banjo. And yeah, I'm a heavy metal kind of guy. I just like variety and lots of room to try new things.

Talbot

Seems to me that no matter the makeup you want a full sound and a melding of the pieces of the band. Theory being-- total is greater than the sum of the parts.

You can go from the White Stripes (guitar and drums only) to something like a EWF.

While a simple trio or trio + vocalist has certainly worked well, many of them will include additional instruments (incl. guitar) to get the sound they want/need (think ZZ top, Zeppelin, Rush, Tool, The Who, The Doors and many others). Listen to "Pick up the Pieces", near as I can tell there are at least 2 guitars in that song even tho it is dominated by the horn section.

Being an AC/DC fan I'm kinda partial to having 2 guitarists. The rhythm guitar seems to round out the sound along with the bass. Kind of a "glue" between the bass and lead guitar.

As always with music, it'll come down to personal preferences.

I would love to have another guitar player, I'm getting tired of playing leads. But he/she will have to be as good or better than me, I'm not teaching anymore.

I've been putting ads out for guitar players for six months now and not one bite. I had bass players coming out my ears, but not one guitarist. Sad, because Cisco says the same thing, Jimmy, he'd love to trade off leads and playing rhythm. Three pieces gets old after a while. Having a nice full sound is where it's at. Hopefully, I'll find my dream guitarist and make this a five piece. I'd really love to find a guitarist that plays keyboards!

Chaeya

In my case, it's usually all about the Benjamins... more cash for only 4 peeps.. I have no prob playing both rhythm and leads to our show! We've got over 4 sets of songs and not once has our audience complained!

I would like to get a keyboardist eventually... after we can command enough of a salary where I'd be walking out with jus as much as I make for the 4 of us!

If your playing rock of any kind, you need a rhythm and a lead guitar player, bass, and drums, toget that thick sound.

Volume wars, can't be won, I use to turn up, and we'd just get louder and louder and louder. I don't play volume wars anymore if you can't hear that your louder than the rest of the group, I probably don't want to play with you.

The music should be about the music and not the money (in my humble opinion), if you want to make money make money, if you want to make music make music, and if the two happen to coincide count yourself as extermely lucky. I'm not making much money playing music, but I'm sure having a good time making music. Then again when I was running my business and making money I was having a good time.

The gospel group I play in doesn't need a lead and rhythm guitar player, we've got just me playing guitar (acoustic), a dobro player, mandolin, and banjo, and usually a piano player. While the southern rock band has three good guitar players, and one of us usually will float around on to the piano, depending on where we want to go with the song, and thank god we haven't had in volume war problems in either group, and none of us are in it for the money, but money would be nice.

If your playing rock of any kind, you need a rhythm and a lead guitar player

WTF?? Tell that to the clubs that pay me.... Hmmmm..Halen..Rush...ZZ-Top..daaayyyyam, I could go on forever!

All you need is and awesome rhythm section and a bassist who knows his craft....especially playing chords on the bass

The number of reasons two guitarists don't work well together is as vast as the colors of a rainbow. I prefer working with another guitar or keys but it has to be a team effort with all musicians pulling for each other to make great music. I have played with some really excellent players who had chops, understood volume and dynamics, played a solid solo or could back you on a solo equally well, could do really fun call and answer session, understood how to lay a complimentary groove without stepping all over another player, and would cover for you if you screwed up or broke a string. My favorite gigs of all time contained these elements.

On the other hand I have played with some skilled players with either limited live experience or their ego just got in the way of the music. They were not comfortable unless they were the big dog in the room and had to play harder, faster, louder than anyone else, stepping all over other players solos all night. As a result it just became a guitar cutting contest at 130db and the music went out the window as the fans went out the door. SRV was an amazing guitarist but had a very difficult time sharing the stage with another guitarist (except his brother). His worst live shows were always with another guitarist on stage where he just pounded the other player into submission. Ugh! These shows are no fun for anyone. Garage band gone wild.

If you want to work with two guitarists there has to be mutual respect and a willingness to help make the other guy shine when he is in his element. Everyone has certain things they do really well and hopefully each guitarist brings some different tones and abilities to the table that compliment the other. A willingness to control stage volume just comes from experience and maturity as a working musician.

At the risk of copping a really overused cliche: There is no "I" in Band.

At the risk of copping a really overused cliche: There is no "I" in Band.

Baind??

At the risk of copping a really overused cliche: There is no "I" in Band.

Baind??

And for every rule there is an exception. If you already know you don't like playing with other guitarists... just say no thanks.

Im with Crip, my band is three piece with a singer. One more man equals one more cut so it aint happening in my band.

Ive never had anyone complain to us that we need another guitar player, other than out of work guitar players who want an easy gig! LOL