General Music Chat

Man, I got really chopped up a few years ago...haha! This guy made sure to make his review of my home-made demo long, and everywhere for all to see. Then he acts as if he did me a favor. I guess I can see his point, but it didn't help at all. In a morbid way I'm glad I got hit with that big shot to the ego cause it prepared me to expect harsh, strong opinions.

Ah, you guys just like to argue. I figured that one out a long time ago. I actually enjoy it.

Klug, I was speaking in general, I was no longer speaking about Angel's music. But listen, we've all been hurt, it's what creates the driving force that keeps us in the game. I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you're gonna get your feelie weelies hurt over something someone says, then you don't need to be in this business.

My mom told me constantly that I couldn't sing, oh there you go with that "sh*t," "you're not out there spending all your money on that music sh*t, are you? I got that madness up until she passed away a few years ago. My parents would send me gift cards because they were afraid I was gonna spend it on instruments instead of buy my kids stuff. Really? I'm gonna let my kids starve in favor of buying an instrument? I've had a bunch of guys talk sh*t on me in a forum 8 years ago, I mean you wouldn't believe the mean sh*t they said to me, ripped me to shreds all because I asked for an honest opinion of my recording and wanted some tips. They thought I was trying to sell my music and spam their little shitty board. I mean, you guys are nicer. My recording sucked, it was horrible, I knew it was, they were a group of recording engineers who worked in the industry, what the f**k would I want to sell them my CD for? I said that, all I wanted to know was what I did wrong. Another time, I posted on an American Idol forum that I didn't agree with their age limits and I was told by a number of people that I was a old, I needed to get over it, I had my chance and I just needed to face the fact that I was a loser. How about doing an audition and having someone go "thank you" before you're even done? We laugh about it when we see it on TV, but it's hard. Didn't happen to me, but I've seen it happen to people. When I wrote my first book and got a critique partner, she tore me up and told me it was "unreadable" and then pretty much told me I needed to relearn how to write. Did I cry about it? I followed her advice because I saw that she was right. I took classes, read books on grammer, plots, character development and so on, and because of it, my book is now readable and doesn't read like a 10 yo wrote it.

AND I'M STILL HERE, BITCHES!!!! I don't give a sh*t what anyone says mostly, but if they're giving me something that will help me, I'm gonna take it and run, not sit and boo hoo because they didn't stwoke my widdle ego.

Jams, dig, I gave her a lot of solutions, I don't see how she couldn't figure it out. You get some cash and you get your stuff recorded. I worked a day job my whole life - I hired musicians, I paid for studio time, I bought my own master tapes to record on, now I own my own studio. I paid for photographers, put together my own press kits. Most of what I learned in this business was because of producers. And I got work in turn, I got a lot of session work all because of one producer who I hooked up with. Instructors are fine, but you get off your butt and practice day in and day out, and like you said, get a metronome, you will get good. I had one vocal instruction with some big opera instructor. In that one lesson, I learned breath control and how to sing from my diaphram. I took a music theory class from LACC because I wanted to at least have a clue. The rest was practice, practice and more practice. You can love my voice, think it's blah or hate it, but I worked long and hard on it.

So you want to be in this business, you'll work your ass off under me. You bring it to me, I will take out a whip and ride you like Sea Biscuit, but you'll be great when I get done with you. People won't be able to tell you any smack.

Chaeya

Hey Chaeya that was beautiful. Would yo do me a favor and send that to Gwen on FB or something.

Glen

It's funny how people are arguing over the critiques. That tells me that there probably is no good way to tell you just how bad this is. I ordinarily don't give really bad opinions on what people post here. I try to be encouraging as much as possible. But this sounds worse than a truck full of pigs crashing into a truck full of bowling balls. I think you have the possibility of being a good singer. You almost have a sound quality like Blondie BUT I could understand what Blondie was singing. I can hardly understand anything you're singing. My biggest beef with most bands is unintelligible vocals. We participated at a Battle of the Bands recently and most of the bands were unintelligible and the ones who were unintelligibile YOU DIDN'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PROFANE-LADEN VOCALS. I say you seriously need to go back and re-record these with an attempt at CLARITY. Music should follow a melodic progression, first and foremost. Otherwise it's just NOISE, not unlike a truck full of pigs crashing into a truck full of bowling balls...

Damn I was at a songwriters convention 10 or 15 years ago. Down in some place just out of Nashville,[sometimes we open at 9 and close a 3, sometimes we don't open at all]. Well any way we broke up into groups for personal critique from the masters. At the time I had one song floating called slam the door. About what happens when a woman gets angry cause of no reason[ there always is, and it may have nothing to do with you].

This professional was outraged that I could portray a women that way and denigrate them that way. Funny thing was, in hindsight, he was pissed because everyone in the group loved it and it wasn't his song.

Anyway there was this tall gorgeous ,and I mean gorgeous ,blonde woman,[Gwen was even afraid that I was gonna let her jump my bones] that submitted a song to the group by playing guitar live and singing live.

OH GOD, It was so bad, it was far worse than Japans nuclear nightmare or the meltdown at Chernobyl. Guitar out of tune, No vocal ability, No song structure, and lyrics that had no continuity of ANY topic.

When she was finished this A-HOLE critique expert inserted his foot so deep in his mouth it was sick. He said"That was very funny, do you have something else you wish to share?"

I forgot to mention one point, She was very sweet, but with a slightly reduced IQ. When she finished her second song this moron ended the session. He didn't want to insert his foot any deeper.

It's nice to offer some honest well intentioned help when it is asked for.

You know the worst part of any rejection,,, Is when you don't try at all.

It's funny how people are arguing over the critiques. That tells me that there probably is no good way to tell you just how bad this is. I ordinarily don't give really bad opinions on what people post here. I try to be encouraging as much as possible. But this sounds worse than a truck full of pigs crashing into a truck full of bowling balls. I think you have the possibility of being a good singer. You almost have a sound quality like Blondie BUT I could understand what Blondie was singing. I can hardly understand anything you're singing. My biggest beef with most bands is unintelligible vocals. We participated at a Battle of the Bands recently and most of the bands were unintelligible and the ones who were unintelligibile YOU DIDN'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PROFANE-LADEN VOCALS. I say you seriously need to go back and re-record these with an attempt at CLARITY. Music should follow a melodic progression, first and foremost. Otherwise it's just NOISE, not unlike a truck full of pigs crashing into a truck full of bowling balls...

Hands down, Bob, you're the Bandmix's Simon Cowell. You're making me look like Paula Abdul here.

Chaeya

Anyway there was this tall gorgeous ,and I mean gorgeous ,blonde woman,[Gwen was even afraid that I was gonna let her jump my bones] that submitted a song to the group by playing guitar live and singing live.

OH GOD, It was so bad, it was far worse than Japans nuclear nightmare or the meltdown at Chernobyl. Guitar out of tune, No vocal ability, No song structure, and lyrics that had no continuity of ANY topic.

When she was finished this A-HOLE critique expert inserted his foot so deep in his mouth it was sick. He said"That was very funny, do you have something else you wish to share?"

I forgot to mention one point, She was very sweet, but with a slightly reduced IQ. When she finished her second song this moron ended the session. He didn't want to insert his foot any deeper.

It's nice to offer some honest well intentioned help when it is asked for.

I would've loved to see this. I like watching guys act stupid when these types of chicks are around. Add some fake tits and the game really gets good, with Beavis and Butthead snorts at the end of every sentence. On occasion I've wanted to be that snarky chick that says "ain't no way in hell will she ever f**k the likes of you," and then watch them get come back to reality. It's almost sad to watch. Like you just popped some kid's balloon. Ah, but they deserve to have their little fantasy.

Chaeya

Anyway there was this tall gorgeous ,and I mean gorgeous ,blonde woman,[Gwen was even afraid that I was gonna let her jump my bones] that submitted a song to the group by playing guitar live and singing live.

OH GOD, It was so bad, it was far worse than Japans nuclear nightmare or the meltdown at Chernobyl. Guitar out of tune, No vocal ability, No song structure, and lyrics that had no continuity of ANY topic.

When she was finished this A-HOLE critique expert inserted his foot so deep in his mouth it was sick. He said"That was very funny, do you have something else you wish to share?"

I forgot to mention one point, She was very sweet, but with a slightly reduced IQ. When she finished her second song this moron ended the session. He didn't want to insert his foot any deeper.

It's nice to offer some honest well intentioned help when it is asked for.

I would've loved to see this. I like watching guys act stupid when these types of chicks are around. Add some fake tits and the game really gets good, with Beavis and Butthead snorts at the end of every sentence. On occasion I've wanted to be that snarky chick that says "ain't no way in hell will she ever f**k the likes of you," and then watch them get come back to reality. It's almost sad to watch. Like you just popped some kid's balloon. Ah, but they deserve to have their little fantasy.

Chaeya

Wow Mike, That's a pretty tough road when your wife doesn't
like what you do artisticly. Must be true Love.[/b]

Boy am I glad I stayed out of this one!!!!

Y'all are funny.

I think it's just idle minds phil.[/b]

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As others have said get a guitar tuner. Whenever I record I check my tuning every run thru and even then Im ussually out of tune.

As far as timing some songs benefit from that in the acoustic area, but you might try some sort of metronome timing device when you practice and record.

Dont let any naysayers sway you, just keep plugging away, as for me I would be embarassed as hell of some of my early stuff I did, hell Im even embarasses with my later stuff. Use the negativity to drive you to do better.

Good Luck

I always find the most useful critique is the one that starts out, 'This is not my style of music'.