General Music Chat

Two websites launched this week, Karma Japan and Ignorant and Online, collect a wide assortment of terrible, insensitive, hateful things said by stupid people about Japan and her people after the earthquake. Mostly, this is thick-headed white people in America saying the disaster is "karma for Peal Harbor." Feeding the trolls? Perhaps, but it's still an interesting sociological snapshot. (via Sean Bonner)

Stupidity is not limited to "white people".

Being as much of the Asian culture remains highly superstitious.
I have to wonder what their "underground" social buzz is saying.

I wonder what "karma" had to do with Haiti, New Zealand, Pompeii, KRakatoa, Iceland, Mt St. Helens, HUrricane Katrina, New Madrid fault line earthquake, Indonesian tsunami, The Black Plague, Great Alaskan Earthquake, Mass dinosaur extinction, etc. etc. etc. The earth is a violent place, always was and always will be. Some people are psychologically messed up, always have been and always will be...

The Internet has become like liquid courage for many. Anonymity means no consequences for their words. So any article that allows comments to be posted is fair game to the trolls. Don't imagine most would have the same courage if they were face to face with their prey.

"Mostly, this is thick-headed white people in America "

they sign their ethnicity on their posts? how odd.

Funny, Americans learned about the concept of Karma from Japan. I think they're mostly confused Christians.

I wonder what "karma" had to do with Haiti, New Zealand, Pompeii, KRakatoa, Iceland, Mt St. Helens, HUrricane Katrina, New Madrid fault line earthquake, Indonesian tsunami, The Black Plague, Great Alaskan Earthquake, Mass dinosaur extinction, etc. etc. etc. The earth is a violent place, always was and always will be. Some people are psychologically messed up, always have been and always will be...

Need to carve that one in stone somewhere.

Mind if I borrow...

A large majority of people don't know or understand what karma is, and they throw the term around, along with the concept of nirvana.

It cannot be applied to people collectively. Your karma is your karma, not everyone else's.

I wonder what "karma" had to do with Haiti, New Zealand, Pompeii, KRakatoa, Iceland, Mt St. Helens, HUrricane Katrina, New Madrid fault line earthquake, Indonesian tsunami, The Black Plague, Great Alaskan Earthquake, Mass dinosaur extinction, etc. etc. etc. The earth is a violent place, always was and always will be. Some people are psychologically messed up, always have been and always will be...

Need to carve that one in stone somewhere.

Mind if I borrow...

George you can quote me any time you want, maybe even put that in a song...

Funny, Americans learned about the concept of Karma from Japan. I think they're mostly confused Christians.

Uh, that would be the Hindus. The philosophy of karma comes from sanskrit.

Chaeya

On the radio call in shows up here in Toronto, there were several oldsters that were stationed in the Pacific theatre during WWII that called in, and there wasn't a whole lot of empathy/sympathy for the whole situation.

On the radio call in shows up here in Toronto, there were several oldsters that were stationed in the Pacific theater during WWII that called in, and there wasn't a whole lot of empathy/sympathy for the whole situation.

Not surprising. Most of the Pacific theater boys I've worked with inthe past
( and there have been a lot of them in the oil patch ) held a deep seated hate of the Japanese.
Seemingly more so than the European theater GI's .

Though most of them rarely or never spoke of their experiences.
And when they did, you could tell they were still holding back tears.

It is now offical. The whole thing is now being covered up with down play. Reporting smaller body counts "A LIE" Reactor melt down "A LIE" A friend of mine on the USS Ronald Regan did a pass by 10 miles from the reactor and came back with raditation poisioning. I am so pissed right now I can't even type. F it.

My father faced the kamikazis in Leyte Gulf and Okinawa. He never forgot or forgave. In the Pacific nobody did much in the way of taking prisoners. Japanese cruelty to the prisoners they got early on went a long way to fomenting that hatred.

What really ticked my father off was my own fascination with Japanese culture. Right or wrong - I consider WWII an aberation and view the Japanese as a culture I can admire. The samuri thing in particular.

The old man did say one thing that surprised me - He liked Baseball and after watching Ichiro (Seatle) said "I could almost like that bastard if..."

For my part - my wife and I have been praying hard for the Japanese and are very sad that this happened. Those folks have done nothing to deserve that.

What makes this extra scary is my own experience - driving down to San Diego years ago I saw something that frankly scared the sh*t out of me - two things in fact: The San Andreas Fault and yep, a nuclear power plant. What a winning combination. I fear very much that we'll see the same thing here as Japan.

Here is a Haiku from one of my favorite Japanese soldiers (wtih no atrocities attached to him) - Gen Kuribayashi (of Iwo Jima):
"Death is light as a feather -
but duty is heavy as a mountain."

He could have had a nice discussion over tea with Robt E. Lee.

best
Talbot

Harboring hatred towards a younger generation for what a former generation did is sheer stupidity. And all of the former generation should not suffer for what a percentage did. There are those who hate the white race for slavery, even though none of this generation ever owned slaves, and many weren't even in America at the time of slavery, yet they are hated none the less.
Look what has happened to the race who's leaders spread hatred and dissection for a living? They are always at the bottom of the social ladder.

Un forgiveness tolls heavy on the one who harbors it. You can hate someone for what they did, but it only eats at you and robs you of your happiness. The one being hated couldn't care less, and perhaps is even unaware of the hatred you harbor towards them, and they go about their life without concern for what you are thinking.

Forgiveness lifts the spirit of the one forgiving. A lesson learned long ago.

A driver cuts you off and gives you the finger as he cuts in front of you at a 4 way stop. You spend your day wishing you could have reacted towards him so he would know how irritated you are. Or someone shoves in front of you in a line at the store or a similar event.
You ruin your day, while the idiot goes on their way pi$$ing off everyone their path crosses. He has a good day and couldn't care less about others.

So which one has their day ruined? The solution is a simple as the answer.