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#139296 by toxicmetal11
Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:52 pm
FIRST, TO MIKE NOBODY (YOU'RE SOMEBODY!! STAY COOL!!) I MUST SAY THIS, I KNOW THIS ISN'T A PYSCHOTHERAPY FORUM BUT MANY ARTISTS IN GENERAL SUFFER FROM MENTAL HEALTH AGGRAVATION. I TAKE SIX NARCOTIC MEDS, BY TWO DOCTORS - 15 YEARS NOW - AND HAVE ACHIEVED MONUMENTAL GOALS. HOWEVER, THE MUSIC BUSINESS NEVER CHANGES; READ ON.

Okay, so after 6 months of honing my metal chops, vocal and writing skills, and playing one-man-band shows at the coolest venue up the street from me, I find a great bass player and hot drummer who like my 17 original self-produced programmed drum machine, bass parts, the whole deal so much they pretty much play it note-for-note. We audition at , you guessed, my dream venue. It sounded like GOD. We played great, I sang great. The man who books the bands had to do sound that night, no prob. He was truly impressed, remembered me and stated "man, what a difference with a real band. Your guitar sound was perfect, the clean and heavy volume ratios were equal. We talked outside about a gig. One was selling tickets and splitting a percentage, "but then again I could just give you guys a break and get your foot in the door, like not a Sat night headliner (duh!!) but maybe a Friday night opener. If you don't hear from me in a week, bug me. So I waited until the following Wed. I sent an email, very clean and cool stating all we needed was that one quality gig, "foot in the door", we would bring in a sizable crowd. Let's do this Rick, it'll benefit both your club and us". Well that we did the open mic audition on Jan 12, I emailed him AND spoke to him on the phone on Wed Jan 19. So its Jan 26, nothing as of yet. The guys in the band are getting punchy; I told 'em "cool down dudes, club managers / booking agents are notoriously sluggish etc. gotta be patient. They still need "quality cover bands for Thursday nights" but we're still finishing up on enough all original material to do the Metal Friday thing, which is all original. I suspect he is booked out a ways and is trying to fit us in somewhere. Once I hear "Got you a gig", its PROMOTION FOR OUR LIVES. Yes, there are other venues in Phoenix, Arizona. But not like Joe's Grotto. If we can establish our name and music there, we can fan out building on that success and eventally pile it all into a decent website. AM I ANYWHERE NEAR HAVING A CLUE?
8)

#139297 by Mike Nobody
Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:14 am
Music is psychotherapy. :D

#139300 by Hayden King
Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:26 am
SWEET! :arrow:

#139301 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:27 am
I wouldn't wait around for a club. Find his competition and play there and he'll start returning your calls. If you can get 3-4 clubs that know your band you can just set up a monthly rotation through them and you're set. Once you dominate that scene go on a two-week regional tour and see what happens. Stay metal!

#139303 by Mike Nobody
Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:53 am
jimmydanger wrote:I wouldn't wait around for a club. Find his competition and play there and he'll start returning your calls. If you can get 3-4 clubs that know your band you can just set up a monthly rotation through them and you're set. Once you dominate that scene go on a two-week regional tour and see what happens. Stay metal!


Gee, Jim, you should handle our booking then.
#139309 by toxicmetal11
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:47 am
Yeah, I thought about making the dude sweat it out himself by blowing the walls down at another popular local bar not too far from where we are and aligned with the rising of our very own star. Do you own a 1972 four door sedan car? Listened to Jimmy Danger's bandmix songs, cool, fun, basic rock n' roll with old school punk ala New York Dolls. Especially dug Doghouse and Huffin' Gas. I think with Zappa you may have meant Wino Man off Zoot Allures. Dirty Love by Zappa is another good one. Check out MEDUSA's two songs if ya care to, it ain't Detroit grit but it rocks London swings. 8) :twisted:

#139311 by jimmydanger
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:53 am
Good stuff Toxic!

We refer to the Zappa tune we do as "Wino Man" too but it's actually named "Wonderful Wino". We wrote a Zappa inspired tune called "Pincushion Sue". We recorded it with Scott Asheton (The Stooges).

#139313 by Scratchy
Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:58 am
Good to hear you've been too busy to post here at BM.

I hear Arizona is tough on original bands. I think you should put your stuff out there and let the other club owners wish they'd had you first.
#139315 by toxicmetal11
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:12 am
Though very cool sound, it had two side effects: a London subway train attempting to travel forwards on a slightly warped track with multiple points to cross and a tunnel built for a small maintenance repair engine. 2. A pack of bloated, gaseous cloud blowin' podrasoarases lumbering across the hot prehestoric badlands after feasting on 500 tons of Pizza Hut's Meat Lover's Deep Dish and Bread Sticksvolcanoes going off and setting their massive releases of methane into mushroom clouds 8 miles high. :oops:
Mike Nobody wrote:Music is psychotherapy. :D

#139317 by BassBastard
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:45 am
Joe's Grotto is the best club venue in the valley. I hang there from time to time and the sound is always spot on.

I can not wait to get a project going. I think i am finally ready to move on. Metal bassist available...

#139318 by toxicmetal11
Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:53 am
Well therein lies the paradox I'm in: Joe's Grotto is the one venue known for supporting all original metal bands - the have a format for pretty much every night; acoustic Mondays, Ska/Reggae Tues. Open Mic Wed. and so on. And their stage is HUGE, they got mains uder the stage and on top, six monitors in front, one for the drummer, speakers in the back by the dart boards and pool tables, speakers outside on the smoking patio. Their outboard sound gear is top notch, lighting and backdrop mural..................I mean, its hard to go to another club and find second rate crap and stricter formats. I don't mind doing other's material but what we like to do is supercharge old classic rockers like The Eagles Hotel California and drop a frickin' Anvil on it. Breathe new life into tired out songs like Stairway To Heaven - I cut 'em down to four minutes and cut out all the Celtic flute stuff intro, use heavy percussion instead to lead into the drums. I've had pepple dig hearing it again as opposed to just playing it as a "COVER BAND". YA KNOW? :arrow:
#139324 by fisherman bob
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:56 am
toxicmetal11 wrote:Though very cool sound, it had two side effects: a London subway train attempting to travel forwards on a slightly warped track with multiple points to cross and a tunnel built for a small maintenance repair engine. 2. A pack of bloated, gaseous cloud blowin' podrasoarases lumbering across the hot prehestoric badlands after feasting on 500 tons of Pizza Hut's Meat Lover's Deep Dish and Bread Sticksvolcanoes going off and setting their massive releases of methane into mushroom clouds 8 miles high. :oops:
Mike Nobody wrote:Music is psychotherapy. :D
You just warmed the atmosphere, no wait a minute you must have cooled it. We just had a blizzard.

#139325 by fisherman bob
Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:59 am
toxicmetal11 wrote:Well therein lies the paradox I'm in: Joe's Grotto is the one venue known for supporting all original metal bands - the have a format for pretty much every night; acoustic Mondays, Ska/Reggae Tues. Open Mic Wed. and so on. And their stage is HUGE, they got mains uder the stage and on top, six monitors in front, one for the drummer, speakers in the back by the dart boards and pool tables, speakers outside on the smoking patio. Their outboard sound gear is top notch, lighting and backdrop mural..................I mean, its hard to go to another club and find second rate crap and stricter formats. I don't mind doing other's material but what we like to do is supercharge old classic rockers like The Eagles Hotel California and drop a frickin' Anvil on it. Breathe new life into tired out songs like Stairway To Heaven - I cut 'em down to four minutes and cut out all the Celtic flute stuff intro, use heavy percussion instead to lead into the drums. I've had pepple dig hearing it again as opposed to just playing it as a "COVER BAND". YA KNOW? :arrow:
You can play a cover tune any way you want. It still is a cover tune. Kind of like having the same pizza but with better toppings (hopefully!)...Oops, that might ,make you pass more methane. Paradoxically might cause another blizzard...

#139340 by TheCaptain
Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:23 pm
Breathe new life into tired out songs like Stairway To Heaven - I cut 'em down to four minutes and cut out all the Celtic flute stuff intro


you just made an enemy on two fronts there laddie..
#139371 by toxicmetal11
Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:33 pm
I'm not insensitive to Zeppelin fans (I happen to be one!) but I do realise it ain't what you say but how you say it that can turn a forum discussion into a complete battle of words. So enough already, let's cool it, PLEASE. Now, JimmyDanger was the only one so far to give some constructive advice. Others were more or less neutral. Fisherman Bob I was hoping to get some feedback from on my original posting about the Joe's Grotto gig. It won't be the first time a band member has had to assume the role of leadership and learn by a trial of fire. I've been in many bands over the years, but I'm not even going there c'os the whole game has changed and I'm playing my TRUE calling -METAL, in a band I FORMED. And as I mentioned, I'm dealing with emotional issues that make it hard to understand and deal with life when things don't go according to plan. If this band doesn't at least break the local scene, pack venues 3-4 times a month, get a write up in the local music and entertainment paper, cut and promote a full-length CD, I'M DONE; not with writing songs or playing, but with the business. This is my "swang song" I guess they call it. Sometimes its more gratifying to play along with my backing tracks, play and sing live for 15 friends than it is to try and get a gig. But, hey, if LADY LUCK comes along and the whole thing comes together, then its up to us to keep the great metal coming, keep the promoting rolling for as long as Ozzy once put it, "As long as they'll 'ave me". So, I invite more to throw in their two cents worth based on experience, c'os this being a "leader" is all new to me. Thanks All! 8)

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