General Music Chat

I've actually sold close to 2000 copies of my first CD "Shameless Nights"
I did it by playing weekly in Seattle for two years straight, selling at shows, and promoting locally. Being on ITunes helped. I was also lucky to get on Pandora Radio, through a buddy, and that sold a hundred or so. Although for the most part, the Internet hasn't sold that many.

I can't tell you how many hours I put into recording and mixing it, not to mention the artwork and graphics, mostly done by me. I did most of the mixing on Vegas Video and then had my buddy, who is a full time studio guy, Master it.
It's not a perfect CD, but I've made my peace with it and I enjoy listening to it. It's on I Tunes if anybody's interested. I have most of it on my myspace page www. myspace dot com / strangerbytheminute.

I really don't think I could do the same right now with the biz in the state it's in. I really don't belive people value music or live performance as much now that music is practically free on the net anymore. The key is playing out. People want to take the experience home with them, so they will buy a CD. Other than that.........

Never sold a one ...Never made a one... but I've got tons of musician friends who've invested a lot of their money into doing it and ,sad to say, I'm busier and actually making more $$ than they are and I'm just in it for the fun of it! Tried it in my 20's (not CD's as they weren't invented yet)... If you can get enough exposure and can actually keep the band together long enough, than there's a 1% chance you might make something from it!

I heard a rumor that I'm a big star in China, they've bought thousands of my CD's. Problem is they don't believe in intellectual property rights and I'll never see a penny from it. That's one of the reasons Donald Trump is seriously considering running for President. Maybe he could make Chinese President Who one of his interns...

I heard a rumor that I'm a big star in China, they've bought thousands of my CD's. Problem is they don't believe in intellectual property rights and I'll never see a penny from it. That's one of the reasons Donald Trump is seriously considering running for President. Maybe he could make Chinese President Who one of his interns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZA4J1f_NFw

No ...

But the future belongs to the bold.


Shredd6 and the House of Sharks boys are awesome.

I played my copy of their CD at my eldest daughters wedding reception yesterday much to the pleasure of the group in attendance.

Unfortunately my copy has acquired two small skips in it.

I will have to replace it when I get these damn credit cards payed off.

alot of people walk around the mall trying to sell their cds
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I heard a rumor that I'm a big star in China, they've bought thousands of my CD's. Problem is they don't believe in intellectual property rights and I'll never see a penny from it. That's one of the reasons Donald Trump is seriously considering running for President. Maybe he could make Chinese President Who one of his interns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZA4J1f_NFw

Kind of reminds me of this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

I'm thinking that !,000 cds is a little much. But, you won't get 300 replicated ones for that much cheaper either.

How many cds can you sell before everybody starts downloading it? file sharing is totally different than the tape trading days. Tape trading were friends of friends sharing, and file sharing is the whole world lifting music from strangers. So, what do you do, make MP3 encoding illegal?

file sharing is totally different than the tape trading days. Tape trading were friends of friends sharing, and file sharing is the whole world lifting music from strangers. So, what do you do, make MP3 encoding illegal?

It never hurt the Grateful Dead OR Metallica, who both built their fanbase on tape trading and bootleg demos, and not with just friends either.

file sharing is totally different than the tape trading days. Tape trading were friends of friends sharing, and file sharing is the whole world lifting music from strangers. So, what do you do, make MP3 encoding illegal?

It never hurt the Grateful Dead OR Metallica, who both built their fanbase on tape trading and bootleg demos, and not with just friends either.

I'm afraid it's hurting semi-popular musicians with good cult status. Camper Van Bethoven for example.

I'm afraid it's hurting semi-popular musicians with good cult status. Camper Van Bethoven for example.

That could also just be their declining fanbase. They lost a lot of fans with Cracker. Also, a lot of file sharing is out-of-print or difficult-to-find recordings. Janis Ian's career got a little comeback boost from file-sharing. She's been very supportive of it. Like it or not, music fans will make copies and share them with others. Our challenge is to offer something they either can't download (a live performance with a real human being) or don't want to (multi-gatefold LPs with posters and cool artwork). I think it is a little arrogant that labels and greedy entertainers assume they are losing money by someone copying what's already out there, which cost THEM zero overhead, as if they're ENTITLED to you spending ALL your money on THEM and not someone else.

Even though the internet is just a large window of information, I still think it can be hurtful to some.

Speaking of Metallica, there's something about their albums becoming mysteriously available before release that's been making me scratch my head. I mean, how is it that Death Magnetic is being downloaded before its official release? Who made it available? Wouldn't you have to be pretty tight with the band, or their label to even have a copy before the release date? Lars was saying that he even downloaded it to listen to it.

Maybe some of these musicians are crying wolf, but I'm sure a lot of them aren't. Too many of them have been protesting declines in physical sales, and income in general.

I know when I buy an album, I don't get a sudden urge to upload it to a folder so that everyone can copy for free what I just payed for. It just doesen't make sense. If people didn't share their recent purchases, then the traffic would slow down.

I'm all for downloading things that will never see the light of day again. That should be fair game...except for the few assholes that try to pirate stuff because it's rare.

Eventually you will be able to download full wav-like files when bandwidth is sufficient. Probably pay $34.95 a month for a subscription that would allow you to play the files anywhere (computer, phone, home system, car). Your grandchildren will look at Cds like our kids look at Lps.

Eventually you will be able to download full wav-like files when bandwidth is sufficient. Probably pay $34.95 a month for a subscription that would allow you to play the files anywhere (computer, phone, home system, car). Your grandchildren will look at Cds like our kids look at Lps.

What they REALLY need to do is let bittorrents like Pirate Bay sell advertising and merchandising, then pay royalties if they are making a profit from distributing artists music. That is basically how a radio station operates, doesn't it. They blew it with Napster. Because at least it was all on a centralized server and could be more easily accounted for. Now, with torrents, the files are all over the place. Trying to search and destroy each of them is like cutting the head off a hydra, dozens grow back for every one taken down.

Eventually you will be able to download full wav-like files when bandwidth is sufficient. Probably pay $34.95 a month for a subscription that would allow you to play the files anywhere (computer, phone, home system, car). Your grandchildren will look at Cds like our kids look at Lps.

Which leads to another question: Are the prices for 1,000 cds a ripoff?

I'm wondering when prices will go down in the market due to the lack of demand we have for discs.

Looks like the days of albums being a big, artful, display are just about over. Video killed the radio star, and digital killed the album artist.