General Music Chat

I still say Scratchy is a shill. He's on here non stop and ALWAYS trying to arouse discontent.

I see them on forums and commenting on videos every where.
They're always so fukn obvious

You guys dont need me to "arouse discontent"....I've already seen it in the other posts where I havent participated.

But still, its interesting to see where these posts get hijacked, and who is doing the hijacking.

I bet anyone a dollar that this post ends up in an entirely different direction, by the time we get on to another topic, in another post.

Everyone has a different opinion here; and a different approach to conveying that opinion....just like in real life. Some of it makes sense, and some of it is just "wank". Some of it I agree with, and some I dont.

And certainly, written words can be misconstrued...I guess thats why some of us think we're being targeted, and become irate, and start barking at each other. Forums always get that way sometimes.

And lastly, this forum does not need a guy like me to get people acting like assholes.....if you're an asshole, it will eventually become evident by the replies you post, and we will ether take it or leave it.

A bill has just been introduced to Congress to make the use of threatening symbols like a target when referring to a member of Congress illegal. Then when someone like Palin does this we can prosecute her, as criminals should be.

why only members of congress? we the people should have the same protections as them, doncha think?

Why? Because most people are not nationally known figures with opinions that half of the nation disagrees with. If someone makes and posts a map with a bullseye over where you live no one is going to care.

A bill has just been introduced to Congress to make the use of threatening symbols like a target when referring to a member of Congress illegal. Then when someone like Palin does this we can prosecute her, as criminals should be.

why only members of congress? we the people should have the same protections as them, doncha think?

Why? Because most people are not nationally known figures with opinions that half of the nation disagrees with. If someone makes and posts a map with a bullseye over where you live no one is going to care.

hmm. all this time I thought you were opposed to special rights for the elites.

They are not elites. They are people we elect to represent us and we don't want them removed from office unless we vote them out. Get it?

They are not elites. They are people we elect to represent us and we don't want them removed from office unless we vote them out. Get it?

I haven't quite latched onto your line of thinking yet, no. You seem ready and willing to accept flag burning because it's just a symbol (not that it would incite violence), yet someone uses an ambigous phrase that could be taken politically or physically, and you opt to interpret it physically, and are all for a bill to ban symbolism? I'm left wondering how do you feel about movies about assassinating a president?

Burning a flag threatens NO ONE. Posting a map with targets on the names of political opponents is a threat, especially when accompanied by the hate speech of Palin and Limbaugh. Yes, most people will not be moved to action based on these tactics, but some disturbed individuals might be. Why do you think the Palin camp took the map down the same day as the shootings?

Jimmy,

Where was your outrage when Demoncrats were drawing bulls eyes on states they wanted to target a while back? I believe it was the Clinton crowd that drew maps with bullseyes on the states they needed to go after. You realize that they weren't targeting STATES now were they? They were targeting those running for office against them. They were targeting their opponents.

How about a short list of a few political terrorists first said to be right wing groups (as broadcast over the peoples media of the left.)

Major Hussain {Probably have the name incorrect} They were looking for a radical conservative type. Ended up being a disgruntled Muslem.

Timothy McVey Another radical leftist angry about Waco

Lee Harvey Oswald Another radical leftist

Sirhan Sirhan Another radical Leftist

James Earl Ray Another Leftist leaning radical

So why did they start pointing fingers at conservatives and Sarah right from the start? Why is the right blamed by the liberal press and liberals in power from the onset every time when almost every case turns out to be someone from the radical left?

So who is this guy? Is he also going to appear as a radical leftist when the facts come out? Someone angry because she wasn't leftist enough?

Bulls eyes have been used at business meetings and in every sort of goal setting discussion for years. But don't let a conservative do that right? That practice is only approved when Demoncrats do it ... right?

Burning a flag threatens NO ONE. Posting a map with targets on the names of political opponents is a threat, especially when accompanied by the hate speech of Palin and Limbaugh. Yes, most people will not be moved to action based on these tactics, but some disturbed individuals might be. Why do you think the Palin camp took the map down the same day as the shootings?

Do you really hear talk show hosts saying 'go out and form a lynch mob'?

What concerns me is that if you interpret opposition to your own ideology as being "hate speech", then what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and whoever gets to define "hate" gets to silence the opposition by means of the executive branch. That should concern even you, unless you're a Muslim.

Jimmy,

Where was your outrage when Demoncrats were drawing bulls eyes on states they wanted to target a while back? I believe it was the Clinton crowd that drew maps with bullseyes on the states they needed to go after. You realize that they weren't targeting STATES now were they? They were targeting those running for office against them. They were targeting their opponents.

How about a short list of a few political terrorists first said to be right wing groups (as broadcast over the peoples media of the left.)

Major Hussain {Probably have the name incorrect} They were looking for a radical conservative type. Ended up being a disgruntled Muslem.

Timothy McVey Another radical leftist angry about Waco

Lee Harvey Oswald Another radical leftist

Sirhan Sirhan Another radical Leftist

James Earl Ray Another Leftist leaning radical

So why did they start pointing fingers at conservatives and Sarah right from the start? Why is the right blamed by the liberal press and liberals in power from the onset every time when almost every case turns out to be someone from the radical left?

So who is this guy? Is he also going to appear as a radical leftist when the facts come out? Someone angry because she wasn't leftist enough?

Bulls eyes have been used at business meetings and in every sort of goal setting discussion for years. But don't let a conservative do that right? That practice is only approved when Demoncrats do it ... right?

Timothy McVey, leftist? Are you fu*king kidding me?:roll:

Also, the map with targets is right there. Thanks Diz. Uh, those are STATES, not people. Unless you believe a Clinton supporter has plenty of nuclear weapons at their disposal, I don't see anyone "taking 'em out."

Jimmy,

Where was your outrage when Demoncrats were drawing bulls eyes on states they wanted to target a while back? I believe it was the Clinton crowd that drew maps with bullseyes on the states they needed to go after. You realize that they weren't targeting STATES now were they? They were targeting those running for office against them. They were targeting their opponents.

How about a short list of a few political terrorists first said to be right wing groups (as broadcast over the peoples media of the left.)

Major Hussain {Probably have the name incorrect} They were looking for a radical conservative type. Ended up being a disgruntled Muslem.

Timothy McVey Another radical leftist angry about Waco

Lee Harvey Oswald Another radical leftist

Sirhan Sirhan Another radical Leftist

James Earl Ray Another Leftist leaning radical

So why did they start pointing fingers at conservatives and Sarah right from the start? Why is the right blamed by the liberal press and liberals in power from the onset every time when almost every case turns out to be someone from the radical left?

So who is this guy? Is he also going to appear as a radical leftist when the facts come out? Someone angry because she wasn't leftist enough?

Bulls eyes have been used at business meetings and in every sort of goal setting discussion for years. But don't let a conservative do that right? That practice is only approved when Demoncrats do it ... right?

Are you trying to say that everyone who assassinates/kills a politician is a Leftist? (Then you dont know the definitions of Leftist)

Are you saying that everyone who assassinates/kills a politician is a radical? (Then you do know the definition of Radical)

Or are you trying to sell us Right Wing Fundamentalism at any cost? Even if it means mis-information? Because what you just wrote........

Giving up any rights for the illusion of security is not acceptable for any reason.

I will have strong opinions in opposition to many. That does not give them the right to silence me. What can be done to me can be done to YOU.

This man is responsible for his own actions. Unless you are wanting me to beleive:

The beatles are responsible for the Manson Family slaughtering the tates.

Marilyn Manson is responsible for Columbine

Eminem is responsible for Columbine

Dune and Quake traind the assholes who committed the atrocities at Columbine.

Slayer is responsible for a kid's suicide in the 80's

A dog is responsible for the son of Sam.

This guy was a psychopath and had actually WORKED ON GIFFORD'S CAMPAIGN as a volunteer in 2007. (or there about) He stalked her.

If you are willing to accept all the above as true, then by all means blame talk radio and right wing rhetoric. Then be ready to face the harsh realities of what both sides have done.

There are always delusional people looking to blame inanimate objects, celebrities and opposing ideas for atrocities in order to limit the freedom of the American people. The Patriot act is one... Gun bans by Clinton another. The "fairness" doctrine another. Both sides fighting to take away our freedom while we slaughter each other. You are delusional if you think crazy people will stop doing crazy things if you have the satisfaction of silencing everyone opposed to your narrow minded point of view. I almost lost my job because some f**k lefty decided they would yell at ME about carrying a gun today. He called me out in public for "carrying a messenger of death". He said I was no better than the idiot who tried to kill Giffords. (I did not have the gun on me, he just knew from casual conversation in the past)

Is that the kind of people here? If so i am f**k done. I had to walk away because had I answered him honestly he would have done something stupid that would ahve required me to take action to protect myself. Him and his buddy pushing me with thier chests, trying to make me react.

So do not tell me how lefties act. If I were a less tolerent man, I could have screamed for the witnesses that my life was in danger and done what my inner animal so desperately wanted to do. With my bare hands. But I chose not to do it. I leave them in thier ignorance.

Somebody tell me that I do not have to do the same here.

BB, if you protect yourself in this country, and succeed at it, they will throw you in jail! It just happened to someone very close to me. This guy was old enough to be his dad, and was a felon. How nice.

Mike...

No. I know better than that. It was a brain fart while I was typing that post.

I should have asked what they had in common. Yup. Their names were all found in Sarah Palans e-mail address book. How do I know? I have sources in high places within the Demoncrat party.

Giving up any rights for the illusion of security is not acceptable for any reason.

I will have strong opinions in opposition to many. That does not give them the right to silence me. What can be done to me can be done to YOU.

This man is responsible for his own actions. Unless you are wanting me to beleive:

The beatles are responsible for the Manson Family slaughtering the tates.

Marilyn Manson is responsible for Columbine

Eminem is responsible for Columbine

Dune and Quake traind the assholes who committed the atrocities at Columbine.

Slayer is responsible for a kid's suicide in the 80's

A dog is responsible for the son of Sam.

This guy was a psychopath and had actually WORKED ON GIFFORD'S CAMPAIGN as a volunteer in 2007. (or there about) He stalked her.

If you are willing to accept all the above as true, then by all means blame talk radio and right wing rhetoric. Then be ready to face the harsh realities of what both sides have done.

There are always delusional people looking to blame inanimate objects, celebrities and opposing ideas for atrocities in order to limit the freedom of the American people. The Patriot act is one... Gun bans by Clinton another. The "fairness" doctrine another. Both sides fighting to take away our freedom while we slaughter each other. You are delusional if you think crazy people will stop doing crazy things if you have the satisfaction of silencing everyone opposed to your narrow minded point of view. I almost lost my job because some f**k lefty decided they would yell at ME about carrying a gun today. He called me out in public for "carrying a messenger of death". He said I was no better than the idiot who tried to kill Giffords. (I did not have the gun on me, he just knew from casual conversation in the past)

Is that the kind of people here? If so i am f**k done. I had to walk away because had I answered him honestly he would have done something stupid that would ahve required me to take action to protect myself. Him and his buddy pushing me with thier chests, trying to make me react.

So do not tell me how lefties act. If I were a less tolerent man, I could have screamed for the witnesses that my life was in danger and done what my inner animal so desperately wanted to do. With my bare hands. But I chose not to do it. I leave them in thier ignorance.

Somebody tell me that I do not have to do the same here.

Comparing the "Patriot" Act (an Orwellian misnomer if there ever was one) to the Fairness Doctrine is ridiculous. The Fairness Doctrine was adopted after WW2 for a damn good reason, to prevent the media from doing what it does NOW, slant the media with propaganda for political ends. Since it was lifted by Ronald Reagan the media has gotten worse and worse, surpassing the predictions of Howard Beale in the film Network.

BTW, comparing artists and entertainers to the supposed REAL world of news and politicians is bullshit. True, nutcases will interpret anything into their delusions. But, masses of sheeple are worse with their delusions and more harmful on a bigger scale. When music and videogames have something controversial in'em, it is JUST music and videogames. When political leaders and the so-called "news" says something, people take it more seriously. Supposedly SANE PEOPLE!

Jesus! And the nutcases have trouble distinguishing reality from fantasy?