General Music Chat

No ... I would not actually shoot a man for burning the flag.

The point was that what people claim to be a "right" is bullshit.

Burning something is not "speech".
It is an action ... and " incitement to riot".


The Supreme ? Court was wrong.

Actions, are not speech.

Sorry, sans - performance art is a free expression, i.e. a form of free speech, like an instrumental or a painting.

Not that I'm calling the burning of a flag "art," but some ppl would. Me? I'm just a critic, though I'll admit that it does indeed "speak" to me when someone burns a flag.

Nope, not speech ... action.

I appreciate your opinion. I just totally disagree.
The constitutional protections don't require interpretation.
Nor do it's limitations on governance.
Written in plain English.

No ... I would not actually shoot a man for burning the flag.

The point was that what people claim to be a "right" is bullshit.

Burning something is not "speech".
It is an action ... and " incitement to riot".


The Supreme ? Court was wrong.

Actions, are not speech.

You are right, the Supreme? Court is wrong in many many ways.

Fighting Men and Women of the United States Armed Forces and all who support them DO NOT give their lives so some "a hole" who has no values or respect for the American Flag and what it stands for so he or she can desecrate the American Flag. They do it so people can be (alive) to have the freedom to respect the American Flag and all of its ideals and values. If you have no values or respect for the American Flag and what it stands for you have no business living here. You are welcome to visit for a very short period of time but then get the hell out. Period!

Wrong again RG. Soldiers have died to preserve YOUR freedom to call it the Supreme? Court. And also my right to call you a brainless ninny.

I guess to some we're not a melting pot anymore. Only thoughts they want us to think are thoughts acceptable to them... the only race they want here are white and wealthy.

Wait, is wealthy a race?

I just love the statement the Tea Partier's have, "Let's Take Our Nation Back!" I guess they forget they took it from the Native Americans...

When 70%
of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not
racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

My father and
grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and
disrespect ours or the flag.

We did not go to the aid of
certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars
to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is
a living document and open to their interpretations.
I don't hate the rich; I don't pity the poor.

I am sick of 'Political
Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, mexican people ect... and not
a single one of them was born in Africa or Mexico or wherever,
so how can they be 'African-Americans'? Mexican American bla bla
You are a American and that is it, period!
Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a
European-American because my great, great, great,
great, great, great grandfather was from Europe .
I am proud to be from America
and nowhere else. I am just not proud of a lot of people/politicians who have no or very little values and respect for the United States of America and Its FLAG.


Just when ya think stupidity has boundaries, along comes Wacko with no values or respect to try and disprove everything.

My wife cleans the house.

Well, I know one thing for sure, RGM. You were in the military. Ppl who weren't have far more 'liberal' views when it comes to this subject, as a rule.

The bottom line - I was born here. I didn't bring any preconceptions or misconceptions from elsewhere to dis the flag. The hippies I know of who did that stuff back in the 60's & 70's were just like you & I, in that they, too, were born & raised here. Your xenophobia has no place in this discussion, as it has no bearing on the subject.

...& yes, our fathers & friends DID die in wars so that ppl can deface the flag. They died to preserve ALL of our rights, NOT just the ones you would pick & choose from.

If you wanna get up on some soapbox & spout stuff, find a REAL topic of importance to deal with. This nasty name-calling is getting old, especially when it's over a real American right, that you are supposed to be willing to fight & die for, like it or not!

Wow, this is starting to remind me of all the little posts at the bottom of my yahoo news. All I hear is racism, facism and ignorance. But them maybe your right. Perhaps we should incarcerate all the blacks, kick out the Mexicans, and kill the gays......but then I'd have no friends. And by the way no one can ever accuse me of not being patriotic, I'm wearing my red, white and blue American flag undies right now! I like to keep ol' glory close to my ol' glory if you know what I mean.
Is it 1939 yet?

I think this was probably aimed at my comments about flag stickers.

nope!
not aimed at anyone in particular!

I CAN agree with this statement, though RGM - "...how can they be 'African-Americans'? Mexican American bla bla
You are a American and that is it, period! "

Until we begin to identify ourselves as a unified nation, a unified group of people, we are bound to continue with all of these stupid petty arguments with many of our population feeling either "special" or left out of the process entirely! And we will continue to have many of us feeling perfectly justified in disrespecting the country as a whole, since they are such a small minority that their vote or their opinions or their contributions don't count, in their minds.

Perhaps, instead of tossing them out, or shooting them, or attacking them for their feelings of disassociation, if we show them how they ARE included in the system, these problems will cease to exist, eh?

I am a Buddhist-European-American. I'd say that puts me in a minority. Where are MY entitlements? Why doesn't everyone cater to MY needs as a citizen? Why can't you all be more like ME?

Wrong again RG. Soldiers have died to preserve YOUR freedom to call it the Supreme? Court. And also my right to call you a brainless ninny.

Ok fine "I'm a brainless ninny" I still respect the American Flag and I will not allow anyone around me to desecrate it.

When 70%
of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not
racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

Ok math whiz, what is it when 70% of the people arrested are black and the population is 85% white? That's the situation in my rural county in Ala.

You were in the military. Ppl who weren't have far more 'liberal' views when it comes to this subject, as a rule.

I am a proud exception to the rule... except I feel I am a conservative... you know, the real kind, not the modern Flag worshiping kind.

I'm the kind that wants balanced budgets, Federal, state and local... but with a Repub (conservative values preaching) President and congress threw the budget out the window. My local state has elected a Repub Gov and now a repub legislature... their first order of business was to set out to write new laws limiting the availablilty of Porn, gambling and liquor. Never mind those are heavily taxed and we are deeply in debt. First we must purge the state of immorality, then we can balance the budget.

So why do I defend the Dems so often? Not because I completely Identify with their philosophy, its because when we have Repubs in charge they scream about homos and abortions while paying themselves and their buddies the out of balance dividends. They PREACH but do not practice... so I have had to abandon the party that abandoned its principles and embraces idiots like Glenn Beck and Sarah "I can see russia from my house" Palin.

You want to shoot folks who desecrate the flag? Proceed as you like. Don't be surprised when other TRUE Americans shoot you or incarcerate your bigoted a$$. If being opposed to small minded folks like you makes me Liberal, I'll wear the badge proudly.

Wow, this is starting to remind me of all the little posts at the bottom of my yahoo news. All I hear is racism, facism and ignorance. But them maybe your right. Perhaps we should incarcerate all the blacks, kick out the Mexicans, and kill the gays......but then I'd have no friends. And by the way no one can ever accuse me of not being patriotic, I'm wearing my red, white and blue American flag undies right now! I like to keep ol' glory close to my ol' glory if you know what I mean.
Is it 1939 yet?

No, just the ones who disrespect this country and its flag. So its really not that many people we are talking about compaired to the number of people who respect the United States Of America and its Flag,

and I had no idea that Mike Nobody was a racist supporter....He should be banned.