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#134983 by Mike Nobody
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:09 pm
KLUGMO wrote:You might want to try it just once.
Those boots might keep your feet nice
and warm in this cold world.


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#134984 by Shapeshifter
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:27 pm
I understand how difficult it can be to have some representative work...my recordings have come with a pretty lofty cost, not merely financially, but also lots and lots of sacrifice.

The issue I do have, is a matter of credibility. It's personally difficult for me to take anyone at face value-especially on the internet. Talk is cheap. Anyone can TELL you how much of an established musician they are, and then proceed to give their two cents on any and every topic. However, in order for those arguments to carry any weight, there has to be some kind of evidence that this "musician" knows what they are talking about.
I tried to make this point to another one of our members, and he responded by talking about KY jelly and car seat springs. I guarantee I'm not going to take advice from that guy...or even bother to read what he posts. NO CREDIBILITY. If, on the other hand, he HAD some of his work accessible to my listening (or viewing), I might give him the benefit of the doubt. ANYONE can get on this site...they don't give a blood test to see if there's music in it... :wink:

#134985 by gbheil
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:29 pm
I had no music to post when I first came to BANDMIX.
And I had no band.
Just Ray and I.
And a deep motivation.
Had Steve and Eric ignored my profile because I had no music.
NKF would have never come to fruition.

#134987 by Mike Nobody
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:32 pm
joseph6 wrote:I understand how difficult it can be to have some representative work...my recordings have come with a pretty lofty cost, not merely financially, but also lots and lots of sacrifice.

The issue I do have, is a matter of credibility. It's personally difficult for me to take anyone at face value-especially on the internet. Talk is cheap. Anyone can TELL you how much of an established musician they are, and then proceed to give their two cents on any and every topic. However, in order for those arguments to carry any weight, there has to be some kind of evidence that this "musician" knows what they are talking about.
I tried to make this point to another one of our members, and he responded by talking about KY jelly and car seat springs. I guarantee I'm not going to take advice from that guy...or even bother to read what he posts. NO CREDIBILITY. If, on the other hand, he HAD some of his work accessible to my listening (or viewing), I might give him the benefit of the doubt. ANYONE can get on this site...they don't give a blood test to see if there's music in it... :wink:


I wouldn't listen to you anyway. You have no credibility.

#134988 by Chaeya
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:34 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:
Chaeya wrote:
Mike Nobody wrote:
KLUGMO wrote:Except those in there early 20s and teens. I think most others
should have had some recording of some type to post.
In this day and age even a half ass video of play should be had by all.


Apparently, you've never been homeless.


One of my husband's clients was homeless when he started recording with us. He would find bikes and fix them up then resell them as well as detail cars, he lived in a truck on a tow lot and at night provided security for them in exchange for a place to stay. He would hustle all kinds of ways then spend most of his money on recording. We cut him a lot of deals. He's living in someone's garage right now. He has something like 6 CDs worth of music now.

There's also a homeless musician down in Laguna Beach who busks on the street. He records his music on his laptop and burns CDs to sell of his music. A group of homeless musicians got together a few years ago and recorded a CD.

There's no excuse not to have a demo.

Chaeya


And here I've been squandering everything on food and shelter! Boy do I feel like a dummy!


Sorry Mike, you know I'm gonna get on your ass with this one. If you're a musician, why aren't you playing, by yourself if need be? When I worked in downtown LA, there was a cat named, Don, a black guy with long dreds. Every evening Don would be right there when we get off work, croonin' a bunch of Frank Sinatra tunes acapella, saying "how ya doing'" to everyone like he was working inside a nightclub. When Don wasn't on the street singing, he would go around to the neighborhood restaurants and help out in the kitchens or to take out the trash in exchange for a meal. He lived in the shelter.

Have you heard of the barter system? Why can't you look up some recording studios and ask if you can do some work for them in exchange for getting a simple demo done. There are many small studios around and people who just may help you out.

Life don't give you squat if you don't ask and put yourself out for it. You argue for your limitations, they are yours, man. I barely had money to eat in London, but I was recording, that's how bad I wanted it. I would walk right into the record companies and hit people up for a lead or whatever. I answered newspaper ads and I didn't get paid for most of the stuff I did, but I managed to hustle up a pound for some fries or for a loaf of bread and peanut butter to get me through the week.

My drummer just lost his place so he's back to living in his truck again. I have several musicians who I feed and who sleep on my couch from time to time. They're out there hustling to do their music. I'm the breadwinner in my family, and I hustle my butt off to make a few extra dollars to pay for our studio every month. I got mental issues too, but my family has to eat and I want to do my music and write, so there's a part of me that has to fight to not let myself be a victim of anything.

So like I said, you want to keep telling yourself the reason you can't do music and get a demo is because you have to eat and sleep, you can't find musicians, and blah blah, fine, believe that, but to me it's bullshit.

And if you get mad, good, use that anger and show me you can do something, Mike, like I know you can. It all comes down to priorities and sometimes eating and sleeping comfortably just have to take a backseat. if you want it bad enough.

Chaeya

#134990 by RGMixProject
Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:52 pm
Mike Nobody wrote:I wouldn't listen to you anyway. You have no credibility.


How about you take six months off from Bandmix and come back with something other than "Other people's stolen music and other people's stolen copyrighted stupid cartoons"

#134991 by Sir Jamsalot
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:00 am
Bandmix needs to fix this ignore bug - Mike N. is wonderfully silent in my new world, until that is, someone quotes him - :(

#134992 by Mike Nobody
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:00 am
Chaeya,

Yes, it comes down to priorities. If I were still alone and 25 years younger I'd have no problem with being homeless as long as I could still play music. But, I'm not. I have someone I care about who cares about me, and we're both too old to do the starving artist thing indefinitely. Life moves on.

We play music now because we've got the free time to do so. No pressure. If someone wants to play with us, that'd be cool. What people online think of it is irrelevant beyond that.

I'm gradually accumulating items on my shopping list toward this project. My bass amp is currently doing double-duty for guitar as well. I'm hoping to find a good deal on a Sunn Beta Lead in the coming months. I just snagged a good bargain on a vintage preamp I've been wanting on ebay. Eventually, I'll post some new stuff. But, the old stuff is on VHS and cassette. Not even sure if I want to convert those recordings to a digital format. Meanwhile, I AM working on material to give to prospective musicians. But, I'm rethinking how to go about this in light of some recent events.

#134993 by Mike Nobody
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:00 am
SirJamsalot wrote:Bandmix needs to fix this ignore bug - Mike N. is wonderfully silent in my new world, until that is, someone quotes him - :(
:P

#134994 by Shapeshifter
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:04 am
Mike Nobody wrote:

I wouldn't listen to you anyway. You have no credibility.



Uh...I've got more than you, Mike. Like it or not, the proof is on my profile page...where's yours? For all we know, you're just a music fan. My statement wasn't directed at you, BTW...I don't remember you bringing up the KY, anyway.

My credibility is represented by the music on my page, There are songs from four different recording sessions there, over a period of six years. I don't care if you like my stuff or not, the point is, I have something to represent me on this site. What do you have? Formerly, a list of OTHER people's music...nope, that won't do it. All your talk about all the sh!t you've done...Nope, wrong again. All you've got is your big mouth...and that doesn't cut it either. What makes you an expert on credibility? Not a damn thing. You are dangerously close to once again proving what an idiot you can be.. Too bad. It was nice to see that you could come up with intelligent conversation. Are we on our way back to the knuckle dragging?

#134995 by Mike Nobody
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:06 am
joseph6 wrote:Mike Nobody wrote:

I wouldn't listen to you anyway. You have no credibility.



Uh...I've got more than you, Mike. Like it or not, the proof is on my profile page...where's yours? For all we know, you're just a music fan. My statement wasn't directed at you, BTW...I don't remember you bringing up the KY, anyway.

My credibility is represented by the music on my page, There are songs from four different recording sessions there, over a period of six years. I don't care if you like my stuff or not, the point is, I have something to represent me on this site. What do you have? Formerly, a list of OTHER people's music...nope, that won't do it. All your talk about all the sh!t you've done...Nope, wrong again. All you've got is your big mouth...and that doesn't cut it either. What makes you an expert on credibility? Not a damn thing. You are dangerously close to once again proving what an idiot you can be.. Too bad. It was nice to see that you could come up with intelligent conversation. Are we on our way back to the knuckle dragging?


Sheep have no credibility in anything....except being sheep.

#134996 by Sir Jamsalot
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:09 am
Have mercy - use the "misquote" button!

#134997 by Shapeshifter
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:12 am
Mike Nobody wrote:

Sheep have no credibility in anything.



Yeah...I'm getting this from a guy who had to post other people's music on his page, so that everyone knew what he wanted to sound like.


"Hello pot, I'm kettle...I just wanted to let you know that you're black."

See my profile pic? That's me. Who's in yours? Sure looks like other people I've seen before. Nothing original about that. Do you prefer bandwagon or flock?

#134999 by RGMixProject
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:24 am
SirJamsalot wrote:Bandmix needs to fix this ignore bug - Mike N. is wonderfully silent in my new world, until that is, someone quotes him - :(

oops so so sorry for that.

I think Bmix can make a Forum Topic called "The Looney Bin" and you can restrict a member so he can only post in "That" Index.

That way he is still a member, but with restrictions on posting. They will still be able to see all the topics and be able to read them, however they will only be able to post in the Looney Bin.

Kind of like, Go sit in the corner dumbass and talk to yourself.

They could start off with Mike and Scratchy just to see how it works.
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#135000 by KLUGMO
Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:24 am
How come my threads turn into battle grounds so easy?

Am I a trouble maker?

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