General Music Chat

We lost that balance decades ago, Nav. Now it's time we started to fight to get some of our former freedoms back, rather than to sheepishly give up yet more.

I can see your point.

Me

I don't care, you can look all you want but you will need some brain bleach.....just keep your hands to yourself.

The idea that they're jacking off in the bathroom to your daughter's nude picture is the really disturbing part.

He may be willing to die, but is he willing to sacrifice thousands of his countrymen, as well?

Yeah, it's called malignant narcissism. A prerequisite for suicide bombers. They're all "ME, ME, ME. f**k the countrymen!"

All these loss of rights are the bi-product of the real problem.
The goal should be to create a situation where none of this stuff
is necessary. That would be to eliminate the threat. Our current
gov. leaders are only trying to stop it through diplomacy. All that
does is sustain the enemy because you give him another weapon
to use against you and that is, time.

When Patton marched across Europe he didn't use diplomacy.
He did what had to be done despite the inconvenience to each
town and city or Country he shot up killing the enemy. It is obvious
that the USA has become the world police. Like in every group of
whatever, someone needs to be in charge. Because of our superior
military ability we find ourselves in that position. That is what we
should want and what everyone else wishes they were.

Now how do we use this power? Our politicians display weakness.
They abuse their power by overruling military advise for political
reasons. Remember when we stopped short of going into Baghdad
with the Desert Storm. During Shock and Aw remember moving across Iraq and then stopping and just surrounding Baghdad and taking the airport.

In WWII they would have dropped leaflets telling the citizens to exit
the city or their lives are at risk. Then the city would have been
cleansed house by house until all enemies and weapons were
in our control or dead.

I believe our soldiers are still being killed with mortars and weapons
that were in Baghdad that first day we arrived. So my question is.
Who stopped us short of securing the city? Who at that point
decided to just contain the city and take pot shots here and there
trying to kill leaders while the citizenry pillaged itself and was allowed
complete lawlessness. Not our military. It was politicians.
Our military is trained to defeat the enemy and win the war.
They are leashed with politics and that leaves us vulnerable and that
costs soldiers lives.

This kind of stuff going on by the lone super power on the planet
leaves us in a position of Questionable strength and we are being
questioned and challenged all the time.

Being frisked at the airport is far from where your anger should be.
If one day we loose our status as the lone super power on this planet.
You will have much more freedom to loose.

Accidents, murders... people die. We can't secure everyone from everything.
If 1 plane is blown up by terrorists that is bad...
But not a good enough reason for 300 million people to have to jump through hoops.

Try some good ole "police work" would be what is done in the past, and one event a decade ago doesn't make this a special time... and it's not even debatable at this point that it was NOT a group of terrorists led by Bin Laden.

So who is policing our government for rogue insiders?

WE don't need to be policed as a "normal" every day occurrence.
We need to be protected, not inspected.

Why do WE need to be searched and treated as possible terrorists?

THEY need to do their damned police work and treat suspects like suspects. Not the American people!

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I'm not scared of terrorists. I'm scared of these crazy ass Americans who think I'm to blame because they're a loser and they want to go to a public place and take everyone and themselves out. I take my kids to McDonald's and I have to worry that one of these son-of-a-bitches might walk in and try to off me and my kids. I hate these f**k as much as I hate terrorists. If I can live in this shithole, then so can they and get over themselves. Otherwise, if they want to go out, keep it to themselves and leave me out of it because if they do, I will be kicking their ass for all eternity with an astral stick.

I've been getting the third degree since I've been flying. Because of Lockerbie, women traveling alone were targeted over in Europe, the US targeted me because I didn't look like Molly Ringwald, I must have been peddling drugs. So I told Cisco, the next time we fly, we're gonna strip naked, and start performing our music right there. Then I'm gonna scan my CDs and give them away to everyone around. Yeah, we might get arrested, but can you imagine how many fans we might get? Maybe I'll get tips. It'll be on You Tube. It's also cheaper than shutting down the freeway.

Chaeya

Shouldnt some of you folks on here that have all this to say just do soemthing about it instead of wasting your time on here?

Spend the time you take to vent here and get in touch with your elected congressmen, use this energy to change something.

In our recent election in TN. We voted to Amend the State Constitution to allow us the right to hunt in TN. Sounds funny, doesnt it? The reality is without that amendment to our state constitution if the federal governement laid down some sort of law banning hunting, then we woudl have to follow. Did I ever get on here and try to convince you all of the importance of this vote. No, cause most of you are only going to do what you do everytime someone says something about a government situation. Sit on here and any other forum and try to to impress people with your googled intellegience.

While you were doing that me and some other folks from my community distributed flyers in our district to make sure that this Amendment happened. We raised money for ads in local papers to make sure folks knew it was on the ballet. I know I was only a small part of it but I put in close to 30 hours of work into this cause, along with a lot of other people who wanted to protect folks right to keep arms.

It passed in TN by 90%.

I will finish up and just say if you have problems then quit your bitchin and get off your asses and do something about it that matters!

Well JW I have been to our capitol several time lobbying for laws.
Yes everyone does need to do more than just talk about it, but talking about it helps too. Many people are clueless to what it going on and need to be informed.

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Hayden , I find the lot to be just clueless period. The world isn't as safe as it used to be and thats the harsh reality. The government wants to control every aspect of our lives and were letting them do it. I voted for an ammendment to make it a constitutional right to hunt in SC too. I was thinking my dad would roll in his grave knowing they were trying to take our rights to hunt and ultimately take our guns. Pry mine from my cold dead hands !!!! Ali Baba can kiss my asss !!!

Okay, here's my open letter to my Congressman:

1. Stop putting people in jail for minor marijuana offenses - my tax dollars could be better spent. The government spends approximately $6 billion a year prosecuting and housing inmates in jail for marijuana, but these are in states outside of California. I voted to legalize it but it lost. Marijuana is considered in some states to be a Class 1 offense and Cocaine a Class 2. Why? Because Marijuana leads to harder drugs. Really? If I said that all the conservatives would be up my ass because everyone would be drug addicts. Funny that alcohol f**k up your body, contributes to more deaths way more than weed does, go figure.

2. f**k people sitting around for years on the death penalty. Why should these bastards sit around on my dime for 12 years appealing, especially when it's beyond a reasonable doubt that they did it, the evidence was overwhelming they did it, witnesses and DNA shows they did it, and they admitted they did it. After the trial ends, give them a meal and fry them the same day. C'ya.

3. Hardcore sex offenders - bye, c'ya your next life, hope you learned something besides raping and killing women and kids. Same thing above. In some instances, I think there should be mob justice. That the family of the victim has the right to f**k you up in any way, shape or form.

4. Prostitution should be legal and the women should be taken care of just like they are in Amsterdam, they use protection, get regularly tested and use condoms. It should be a respected profession just like the courtesans in certain parts of Europe and Japan. There are men out there who just have no opportunity to get laid or their wife just doesn't give it up, so I believe he should have the right to buy him some, and he'll be happy. I think women should be able to buy some too. When we get old and get cast aside by our husbands for younger tang, we should be able to get us a gigolo and have a nice dinner and a night of torrid lovemaking.

There you go, the overcrowding of prisons just went down a lot and we've saved some tax dollars. Also, some people will wind up safer for it than letting these nutjobs find loopholes in the law and exhaust money with their dumb trials.

And there you have it. I've just incurred the wrath of numerous religious groups, Amnesty International and other human rights groups. Welcome to my world. Can you see me handing out some flyers to the good Christian Republicans of Orange County with this on it? Ha ha. I'll stick to music.

Chaeya

Hang em high in public for all to see !!! I agree on about 99% of what your saying girl. Too bad its all about the money and nothing else.

2. f**k people sitting around for years on the death penalty. Why should these bastards sit around on my dime for 12 years appealing, especially when it's beyond a reasonable doubt that they did it, the evidence was overwhelming they did it, witnesses and DNA shows they did it, and they admitted they did it. After the trial ends, give them a meal and fry them the same day. C'ya.

3. Hardcore sex offenders - bye, c'ya your next life, hope you learned something besides raping and killing women and kids. Same thing above. In some instances, I think there should be mob justice. That the family of the victim has the right to f**k you up in any way, shape or form.

Chaeya, I'm with ya on about half of what you said. But, the death penalty and mob rule? "Beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't really mean sh*t in the real world. We've had to let go hundreds in the last few years alone, on death row, who - it turns out - really were innocent. OOPS!

There's also a matter of who has the moral authority when the mob behaves like the guilty.

There USED to be some pretense that prison was intended to REHABILITATE the guilty. But, it is plainly just revenge and punishment without purpose.

Free the weed. Free the pu**y. Do not kill.

Okay, yeah, mob justice is a bit far, but still some people just need to be taken out. I hate to say that because I'm not a killer at heart, but if it's between me or them and I know this person is just violent and will commit again and again, it's time to go.

I believe the reason people don't care is because they can make up some mental disability or psychological problem and use that to get off and these dumb judges let them because many of them know it's the lawyers' show. Whoever puts on the best show wins. I don't believe evidence should be withheld, I don't believe cops should be lazy and just pin something on someone who they think could have done it so they'd have an open and shut case. As much as you have some good people in the system, you have a lot of lazy, greedy ass bastards who have just died inside. They're dead human beings walking around just perpetuating an already f**k up system.

However, not to sound like a complete hardass, I do believe in rehabilitation. Back in the 90s, I watched the group that rehabilitated ex gang members through reprogramming them. It was psychologically brutal where they pretty much broke them down mentally, then built them back up with positive thinking, because many of these people came from bad neighborhoods and broken families. I don't agree with society refusing to let them in by hiring them for jobs and such because they have a record, especially stuff committed when they were younger. Many of these people commit offenses again to get back in prison because that's all they know and society treats them like rejects. I don't agree with that either. However, most jails are just animal pits that locks these guys away like you'd lock up a dog. Then when they get out, they have no clue of how to reintegrate in with society. It's sad.

Congress? What a joke. The minute I open my mouth I'd get a bunch of people on my ass about how they don't want their tax money rehabilitation a bunch of criminals. However, think of the money you'd save by not locking them up in the first place? Imagine the money we'd have if marijuana was legal?

Chaeya

"We've had to let go hundreds in the last few years alone, on death row, who - it turns out - really were innocent. OOPS!"

Where did you get this number? Are you guessing? Not being a smartass, but this seems more than a little high to me.

JW - Another reason there are so few activists these days is that they immediately become a target, in the gov't's eye, in the media, to all those nutcases out there...

I have written to my gov't officials, though. Unfortunately, they went through our sub-par educational system, & I doubt they can read. Either that, or they're so thoroughly owned by the real powers that be, that it makes no difference...

"We've had to let go hundreds in the last few years alone, on death row, who - it turns out - really were innocent. OOPS!"

Where did you get this number? Are you guessing? Not being a smartass, but this seems more than a little high to me.

Although I'm pretty sure it is in the hundreds, it is a blind guess. I'd like to see the actual statistics if you've got them.