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#128554 by dizzizz
Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:39 am
Hayden King wrote:
GlenJ wrote:You are absolutely right Hayden! If those f'ng companies like "ZIG ZAG and EZ WIDER" didn't make those damn rolling papers, those friends of yours would have never thought to grow pot on your property and cause you all that grief.


and how would we, well the Nazi's run bombing raids over London without that fuel additive that Standard oil was selling them?
How would Hitler have gotten those tanks had General Motors not continued building them for him?


You realize the U.S. Gov't was strongly considering allying with the Nazis until they intercepted the Nazi's plans for Mexico to invade the U.S., right? General motors and Standard Oil were selling on the orders of the U.S. Gov't.

#128555 by Hayden King
Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:49 am
Yup. Also realize that the same entities that empowered the Nazi's are still doing all of the backroom deals today; Grandpa Bush ran the financing to put both Hitler and Mussolini in power.
Our government smuggled 1500 Nazi's into the U.S. after the war under operation paper clip.
Also some 3500 were taken to Brazil and Argentina where they began building corporations like I.B.M. and Siemens.
The looted riches were traced to these and some 150 other corporations.

#128573 by Stranger
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:53 am
Yes... most people don't realize that the Government took away the Bush family bank at the end of WWII for laundering money for the nazi's.

There were a lot of fascists in the U.S. in those days, and they seem to be making a come back....

#128588 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:41 pm
Johnson & Johnson has impacted my wife and I in a very
personal and physical and negative way. They put profit
before patient safety and health with their products.
That is a fact.

#128594 by gbheil
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:29 pm
I'm sorry too hear that Klugmo.

A simple fact is that no medication / chemical / drug whatever label you want to put on it is "safe". They all have possible side effects the majority of these untoward effects are unknowable because the chemistry of each individual is as different as our finger prints.

The best policy IMO is to not put it in your system if at all possible.

I don't understand why so many people are so eager to comply with the government wishes to take a flue vaccination.

You know the government does not have our best interest at heart, so why are they so eager to shoot us all full of some substance that no one truly knows what it contains?

Perhaps there is nothing insidious about the" voluntary " flue vaccinations.
Any more than a trial run for the next round of vaccinations that will be mandatory.

Do some reading on medical nanobot research. Don't do it in public though. You may sh*t your pants.

#128595 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:34 pm
Johnson & Johnson just purchased the Co. in
Sweden that makes the flu shots. I will never get a flu shot
again knowing their incompetance. Niether should anyone
else.

#128598 by gbheil
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:36 pm
It's not incompetence that bothers me. It's the stuff they think they have a right to put into our bodies without our knowledge and consent.

#128599 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:39 pm
Search-- Depuy Hip Recall -- for a good read.

#128602 by gbheil
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:42 pm
Perhaps you don't know or had forgotten. I am a orthopedic rehabilitation RN.

It's not the first, nor will it be the last prosthetic recall.
Medicine is a big experiment.
We are the guinea pigs.

#128603 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:45 pm
If you need a hip you need a hip.
It's no experiment to put products on the market
without FDA approval or testing results.


IT'S CRIMINAL.

#128604 by gbheil
Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:54 pm
FDA approval is a paycheck and a backroom joke.

Sad

#128606 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:03 pm
Without it you are liable joke or non joke.
You seem a little desencitized which is understandable.

#128609 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:43 pm
I think any Co. that dodges normal approval practices
that are manditory especially in the medical field are
dispicable. When your product has injured someone do to
intentional and documented neglect. When you have put
profit before public safety. The 65 billion dollars you made last year
should be forfited to those injured and business should be closed.

#128613 by gbheil
Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:33 pm
Perhaps you misunderstand or interpret my meanings.
I in no way want to seem "desensitized" on the contrary my sensitivity to the injustice of the whole system has me looking for other ( hopefully honest ) means of employment.

My point was that " Approvad by the FDA " is bullshit. It does not make a product safe. To the contrary, every medication that has been pulled off the market due to harm caused to the patient in my 15 or so years of nursing were " Approved by the FDA ".

Also you will note on every consent, even on the hospital admission " consent to treat " there exists a disclaimer, "no guarantee of cure".
Health care is a crap shoot.
Sometimes you roll a 7.
Sometimes it's snake eyes.

Don't think I am insensitive to your plight.
That is simply not whom I am.

#128629 by KLUGMO
Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:39 pm
sans I don't talk about my wives plight much to anyone.
I am very sensitive with her story. She doesn't deserve anything
that has happened to her.
I think a guy like you is probably best suited for medical care
BECAUSE you care so much. I'm sure you bring quality care
to any floor you work on. Believe me I have witnessed some
terrible care givers and that too has caused my wife injury
in a hospital. Anyway I would hope you would share yourself
with those that are helpless and need your care.

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