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#125602 by JamminJeffShire
Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:42 am
There are still quite a few of us aging yankee guitar wankers who are indebted to the great British guitarists, songwriters and bands of the late 60's and 70's. Their influences have stood the test of time and I believe we will never see such creative talent again.

As much as the Beatles come to mind from this time period, I must respectfully say I am not referring to them. To be candid, I'm not a big fan but appreciate the legacy and bridge in the timeline. If I had to pick a fav it would be the humblest of them all, George.

I prefer instead to point toward the harder varieties such as the Yard Birds, Led Zeppelin, Cream, The Small/Faces, Humble Pie, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, Genesis (earlier material) and The Who, and The Stones to name a few. A special mention goes to Jeff Beck, especially the early material and another nod goes to Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood.

Perhaps somewhere in the timeline there are many others but I would be remiss not to mention the late Peter Green, the complex Uriah Heep, Queen's early material and the still great Robin Trower. The list could go on and on, and could be debated feverishly, but I'm just trying to say "thanks" not rehash a spot-on documentary.

Another aside goes to whoever engineered Elton John's Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. If there was ever a benchmark recording from a technical perspective, this would be on my top ten analog recording. I'm still a hard rocker after all these years but can appreciate such subtle beauty as this.

And what I think was the next land mass sized musical bridge is Pink Floyd. Have we hit the wall ? After that it gets a bit blurry with punk, the 80's and what-not. And the 90's ? Well, I can say I'm blessed to have seen Iron Maiden live in my home town in '81. I think it was any way but it was the first Eddy tour. FANTASTIC show and I even went to see the fun loving Ozzy Ozbourne with his fresh out of the gate Blizzard of Oz tour. It was local at a small shed at a park of all things. Another mind blowing show indeed from the early '80's.

In some ways, it was the beginning of the end. I feel like the music is dying, there is no more maker and it has been left out on the tiles to bleed out. No quarter indeed. Dazed and Confused.

When I really stop and think about it, the early British rock and blues musicians have given us musicians of the day (and fans alike) a very deep well in which to drink from for a very, very long time. In addition, the technology then compared to now was ancient yet we still can't reproduce the sound with all the digital wizzbangery of the day. It's like comparing all those original golf (links) matches with smashing records that to this day, cannot be broken and they were using crap clubs and rock hard balls. Talent cannot be bought, it must pre-exist and be fostered. Now where was I ?

I still play guitar daily for enjoyment and even though I have made an effort not to sound like other guitarists, it happens and I hear many of the above six string electric masters seep into my playing almost accidentally and you know what, thank-you. If 1% of their talent stumbles my way on occassion, then it is I who gets burned by the midnight sun.

The British musicians of yore changed the world and gave us yanks something to chew on and spit out with yet another age or two of great rock. Early American rock-n-roll has its place but I cannot honestly say it has influenced me. What we know today as rock music somehow seems to have originally been filtered through the minds of young British lads.

May we never forget the past nor deny the future presence.

May we also enjoy and cross the great musical bridges together when they appear, but most of all acknowledge that this thing we call "music" is still the one and ONLY, world voice. May all those who rock from around the globe crank their amps to ELEVEN and let 'em rip !

From across the pond.

#125657 by jimmydanger
Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:47 pm
"The rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated".

No doubt the British greats continue to influence us but there are a few Yanks that deserve mention.

Leslie West
Johnny Winter
Duane Allman
Eddie Van Halen
Joe Satriani
Frank Zappa
Jimi Hendrix

#125703 by JamminJeffShire
Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:49 pm
You are so right GreenieM....my baddd. I really thought he was off the charts so to speak. It's good to see musicians live a long time from his time period. I didn't do any research when I wrote my letter of thanks. I just went for it. Thanks GreenieM for keeping me on my toes.

And JimmyD has a point and I did go through a Frank Zappa phase when everyone else was gaga for EVH. I guess I'm strange that way but still not a big fan of EVH to this day. Kind of like so many people went gaga for SRV. I saw him live before anyone knew who he was. He was boring but I get the worship thing. He re-lit the lamp for the blues.

Take a listen to early Johnny Winter. SRV stole from him IMO. Don't flame me. It's just an observation.

Any way, I listed Duanne Allman as one of my influences but when I referred to American Rock n Roll, I was really talking about the birth of it, not the later generations.

All the people listed by JimmyD surely must have been influenced by the British rock and blues. Hendrix especially went to the UK to simply be heard since he was too far ahead of what was happening in the States at the time. Hendrix was a game changer but I'm guessing he was bored with American music.

Just remember it's all good, no wrong, no right, no harm, no foul.

Music is subjective and then some.......

#126386 by Christopaul
Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:38 pm
The Brittish invasion in the mid to late 60s was and still is a massive influence. But it could not have happened without the music coming the other way first.

The Britts picked up on the great music, which White Americans were deaf to. When the Stones went to Chicago, they visited Chess studios, to find Muddy Waters there. He was on a step ladder painting the ceiling. Yet he was a legend to The Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton and all the other bands who were taking America by storm. Hendrix burst onto the music scene in the UK when only other musicians knew him at home.

George Harrison, was a great guitarist too. We may never have heared of him if he'd not met John and Paul though. Without George, they may have sounded ordinary too. Go and have a listen to "Can't buy me love"
George was 19 or 20 years old and didn't have all the thousands of guitarists to draw inspairation from, that we have today. The guitar solo is short relativley simple and brilliant.

Oh! Have a listen to Peter Green doing 32 20 blues. It'll be on youtube somwere.

#126421 by Starfish Scott
Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:02 pm
everyone steals from everyone else.

The talented make it sound like it wasn't really a theft..maybe a borrow type deal.

#127730 by Christopaul
Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:40 pm
I preffer borrowed to stolen. If blues, rock, pop or jazz guitarists didn't borrow from eachother. You would have no blues, rock, pop or jazz guitarists. You'd just have guitarists.

#134537 by abig1403
Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:37 pm
Love the post guys.

Am trying to set up a function band playing British Music from the 50's to today. Anybody living in the Colchester are, please check out my profile.

Thanks.

#145972 by drag57
Wed May 04, 2011 2:30 pm
me thinks the brits used up all the best riffs.

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