General Music Chat

So Sans,

Last week I found out Cisco's musician friend was beat up. He was beat up because he intervened in a fight where a guy hit a girl. The guy and his friends attacked him and left him with $7,000 worth of medical bills. He is out of work at the moment and has no health care.

So people like him should be on his own and you shouldn't be responsible for him because he should have minded his own business?

Jail, I'm there. I don't believe in folks sitting on death row for years. You're found guilty, crrrrrrrk! Bye. If there is beyond a reasonable doubt you did it, you admit doing it, I don't see the point of paying for an appeal.

Career inmates who can't keep their butts out of jail, put them to work. You got life in prison, you can fix some roads and stuff. There's plenty of sh*t jobs they can do to work off their keep.

Chaeya

So Sans,

Last week I found out Cisco's musician friend was beat up. He was beat up because he intervened in a fight where a guy hit a girl. The guy and his friends attacked him and left him with $7,000 worth of medical bills. He is out of work at the moment and has no health care.

So people like him should be on his own and you shouldn't be responsible for him because he should have minded his own business?

Jail, I'm there. I don't believe in folks sitting on death row for years. You're found guilty, crrrrrrrk! Bye. If there is beyond a reasonable doubt you did it, you admit doing it, I don't see the point of paying for an appeal.

Career inmates who can't keep their butts out of jail, put them to work. You got life in prison, you can fix some roads and stuff. There's plenty of sh*t jobs they can do to work off their keep.

Chaeya

Where did you ever get this impression ??
We are our brothers keepers, he was minding his business.

Are my typed communications that poor ??

God and me are cool. All I ask of him is for my wife.
All he asks of me is to never give up. He knows I'm a
hard case. I know he is the way.

The struggle has to happen somewhere.

Like that.


Charlie don't surf !!

Stranger wrote:
Quote:
?? Theocracy in Seattle, U.S.A. ??


Seattle isn't who I worry about......


mmmkay. you lost me.

OK....I must have missed your point....Or you missed mine....

There is a major difference between the history of the separation of church and state, and the separation of God from state. All one has to do is read the writings of the Founders, or just read the preambles from any state Constitution and see the role early Americans believed God played in the establishment of freedom and liberty here in America.

When someone says "I don't want the state shoving God down my throat," the first amendment takes care of that. It should anyway. On the other hand there is zero written authority anywhere in American writings that elected officials cannot openly acknowledge their faith in God, pray to God for the nation, ask His guidance and help, and establish His sovereignty in the nation. America was founded on that process. A godless civil government is not what the Founders died for. Exactly the opposite. Nor did they die for establishing a theocratic government. The Pilgrims left England and others left Europe to get away from that with the Church of England, and the papacy in control of things there.

I'll take true, Constitutional freedom and liberty under God's sovereignty any day compared to what exists in this nation today and is wrecking it.

I suppose I just crossed the dreaded line of discussing religion and politics on a discussion board meant for music. History is what it is, though, in written fact by those who made it.

And the prayer of faith is a marvelous thing, too.

This is General Chat not music chat so you are at home here.

God hates me and Satan don't want me,,,,,,, [I know , I know ,GTzip, ],,,,,

I guess you guys are stuck with me. I'll say prayers for all of you.

Chaeya, I thought your first post was quite good. You may have missed the point that Sans was trying to make in your second post. [Thats ok he wasn't blessed in the boobs dept].

Many miss the point about separation of church and state. The government hates competition. The churches hate competition. This is about neither.

Whatever you want to call God it is about the spiritual connection with this silly little thing we call life, music, and love. Prayer is a part of that.

SEE GT I used a period......

So Sans,

Last week I found out Cisco's musician friend was beat up. He was beat up because he intervened in a fight where a guy hit a girl. The guy and his friends attacked him and left him with $7,000 worth of medical bills. He is out of work at the moment and has no health care.

So people like him should be on his own and you shouldn't be responsible for him because he should have minded his own business?

Jail, I'm there. I don't believe in folks sitting on death row for years. You're found guilty, crrrrrrrk! Bye. If there is beyond a reasonable doubt you did it, you admit doing it, I don't see the point of paying for an appeal.

Career inmates who can't keep their butts out of jail, put them to work. You got life in prison, you can fix some roads and stuff. There's plenty of sh*t jobs they can do to work off their keep.

Chaeya

He's not on his own.
File charges.

Yes you can file them after the fact. In some states, well after the fact. All you need is witnesses and a medical exam.

This is General Chat not music chat so you are at home here.

Actually it's general music chat. If you want to talk about religion,,

Go to a religious board.....I personally don't want to hear it.

So much for the original post.

ACTUALLY IT IS GENERAL CHAT.

PERSONALLY NOBODY CARES IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT OR NOT.

NOW YOU REALLY ARE A STRANGER.

Stranger wrote:
Quote:
?? Theocracy in Seattle, U.S.A. ??


Seattle isn't who I worry about......


mmmkay. you lost me.

OK....I must have missed your point....Or you missed mine....

I thought you were implying that the church is becoming more prominent in law making - and hearing that coming from someone who lives in Seattle, one of the most liberal places on the planet, confused me. If anything, the "church" lost its foothold on social and economic policies about the time the last "blue law" was removed from practice. I mean, all the theocratic social taboos of the time are now accepted as "given" social norms - gay marriage, abortion, pre-marital sex, divorce, gradual abandonment of capital punishment, "separation of church and state" removing prayer and 10 commandments from the classrooms - en-toto acceptance of evolution tought in public schools... ad infonitem. I mean, whether you believe this is good or bad doesn't matter - but it seems pretty clear that the U.S. society is not becoming more "theocratic". I just don't get how you arrive at that conclusion is all.

I mean, you gotta lock your doors now when you leave your house...


cheers

Many miss the point about separation of church and state. The government hates competition. The churches hate competition. This is about neither.

The point about separation of church and state was to prevent the government from establishing a state-church that trumped individual religious convictions. One reason for many pilgrims leaving the mother land was because the church imposed the book of sports that eventually became a requirement, against their religious convictions, to play games on the sabbath, a day they felt was to be devoted entirely to worship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Sports

The state church was trumping their personal religious freedom to worship according to their conviction. To remedy this, the founders of the constitution wanted to prevent a "state" / "government" church from interfering with personal liberty to worship - something from experience, pilgrims/puritans knew a state-run church was capable of doing.

Blue laws repealed?

Then why can't I buy a beer before 1 PM on a Sunday? I can't even buy hard liquor to take home on a Sunday, neither!