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#122084 by philbymon
Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:21 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:
philbymon wrote:Craig, I can see their point. I wouldn't want to encourage his sorry ass, either (OR any of his followers).



Well, there you go!

"Media bias is ok, as long as I agree with the bias!" ;-)




F*CKIN' A, man, though when it comes to fools like GB, it looks less like bias, & more like common sense.

Besides, WHEN has one network ever reported fairly about the antics of a rival network's celebrity, for his betterment? (Well...NBC ppl really seem to love Letterman...)

Come on Craig...this can't be called bias for political reasons. You're reaching a bit, there.

Btw...who's making those 100's of thousands estimates? Do you believe THEM? The manipulation of estimates has been a media fave for decades, to promote their particular bias. How many of those huge numbers of ppl were there to protest AGAINST Beck? I don't think I'll buy into ANY of it.

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Glen...while I agree with your opinions of Sharpton, I would remind you that I do not "follow" anyone in politics or social commentary, especially someone like Beck...or Sharpton...or Jesse Jackson...the list goes on...(I do kinda like Cosby, though!)

#122244 by gtZip
Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:36 pm
Are suggestin coconuts migrate?

#122258 by philbymon
Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:58 pm
Sparrows carry 'em.

#122267 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:39 pm
Yeah Phil, you and another 2 hundred million people , hard working decent ,people are having so much stolen from them by an oversized govt at all levels.
You should have your house paid off and another 1/2 million in the bank set aside for your retirement. You're smart, you work hard, and you care about your family , friends , and neighbors. That was a lot of GB'S message. Your blessings come from your honor.

I challenge any man to steal away my freedoms. This country was formed from the barrel of a gun. GB of all the people is one who doesn't want our country to be reformed from the barrel gun.

Maybe you should start following a bit closer because sporting goods stores can't keep enough ammo on the shelves.

#122268 by philbymon
Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:41 pm
Yeah, I know, Glen. I tried to get me some ammo recently...bummer!

#122274 by CraigMaxim
Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:04 pm
philbymon wrote:

Come on Craig...this can't be called bias for political reasons. You're reaching a bit, there.




Of course it's political.


Many of the articles didn't even mention, that Dr. Martin Luther King's niece spoke at the event, and claimed her father would have supported it's goals, of restoring honor, and returning to God as a nation. They didn't mention HER BEING A GUEST SPEAKER, while they QUESTIONED whether Beck was trying to HIJACK King's legacy. Funny... they didn't plan any major events for that day, but once someone else does?

Headlines "FRAME" the story. The headlines were mostly negative, and almost none of them reported accurately, what a turn out there was, until you got into the article.

Deceptive pollsters (meaning biased ones) do the same thing. They FRAME the question in a way, to lead the reader to a predetermined conclusion.

For example:

The question... "Do you support protecting an unborn child, after 6 months of pregnancy has been reached?" does not get the same results as... "Do you support protecting a woman's right to choose, even after 6 months of pregnancy?"

There is a reason, why newspapers refer to one side as "anti-abortion" activists, even though they call themselves "Pro-Life", yet they allow the other side their favorite nickname... "Pro-Choice", even though, the reverse of "anti-abortionist" is "pro-abortionist"

Of course it's political bias.



philbymon wrote:

Btw...who's making those 100's of thousands estimates? Do you believe THEM?




You can't believe "one" estimate, because there are so many competing estimates, and usually an agenda is involved. I've read everywhere from a "few" tens of thousands, to more than half a million. Even one estimate of ONE MILLION. The National Park Service stopped giving "official" estimates to the media, after the backlash of their estimate of the Million Man March on D.C., which they estimated at 400,000. A Park Service official, did give an estimate of 300,000 for the Beck event, but again, it won't be called "official" any longer.

What I am quite confident about, is that there were AT LEAST 100,000 people there. You can look at the aerial photos, and realize that NFL stadiums can hold as many as 80,000 people itself. The area covered by the people in this rally certainly surpassed SEVERAL football stadiums, going from the Lincoln Memorial, almost to the foot of the Washington Monument.

It is a VERY SAFE estimate, that there were over 100,000 in attendance. But you won't find many news outlets headlining that fact, or even mentioning it. King's speech was attended by more than 200,000 people. This event was said to be LARGER than the original. Too many OBVIOUS facts out there, to dispute that there were CERTAINLY over 100,000 people.

#122275 by philbymon
Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:14 pm
Again, mere numbers say nothing about how many supported him, & how many detractors there were protesting his mere presense.

#122278 by CraigMaxim
Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:21 pm
philbymon wrote:Again, mere numbers say nothing about how many supported him, & how many detractors there were protesting his mere presense.



The detractors were at THEIR OWN RALLY in a different area of the city.

But... some people there, surely, were just there to spectate.

Most were there in SUPPORT of the rally... And those numbers "DO" say alot. Which is PRECISELY why the left-leaning media is downplaying them. Beck has a nightly platform to MILLIONS. They can't afford for him to be the voice of the Tea Party, whom they have tried to nullify as "racists" or "extremists" etc... But they keep getting thrown for a loop, by the sheer numbers of people, willing to come out and mobilize!

They need to MARGINALIZE the Tea Party, to convince people they are irrelevant. Because, if a third VIABLE party were to become entrenched. It would upset the applecart these CAREER POLITICIANS have built for themselves over the last half century!

#122286 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:36 pm
How is this for how FU-ED things are.
Recently got a personal Email back from NY senator CHUCK SCHUMER. It was personal because he used my name many times in defense of the crap he has allowed. He did his best to lie point by point.
Out of the blue I am getting threatening letters from NYS UNEMPLOYMENT.

This a reminder that any dividends payed to a corporate officer can be counted as income. Our records indicate that you have covered seasonal employees but you have not covered any corporate officers. To remediate this problem send a check for $10,000 to bring your account up to date.

Now on checking,,, I am not eligible for any unemployment, NO matter how much money I pay in.... If I fail, sorry charlie. No other small business have received such a letter, Just strange the timing and this is my government attempting to abuse me.... I DO NOT THINK SO.

#122295 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:49 pm
This is MY government and the hard working God loving people of our country are getting fed up with having so much STOLEN from them. You should be too.

Scott just head butts some one, if they break the rules and kick him in the privates.
He is such a gentleman.

I'm not.

#122326 by philbymon
Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5zjoOKu6LQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiLppliF ... re=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsBvEnaXtgo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL5tjGK- ... re=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3J_QLtY ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sozq9OG2 ... re=related

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9j_SWbp ... re=related

THIS is the voice of reason?

Is THIS an author to whom you'd give credence? (He calls his novel, 'The Overton Window,' a work of 'faction,' which means that it's a work of FICTION that's "based" on FACT...heh heh heh)

THIS is the guy who represents "the American Conservative?"

THIS is a guy ppl want to follow?

I'd rather follow this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1s4fj-5zlk

...or even THIS guy (as much as I think HE, TOO, is a nut job!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... JE38omcR-8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_SStSLNk28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8XExe9lf0&NR=1

Glenn Beck is an entertainer. Nothing more. He is "the voice" of no one, save himself. He's a liar, a hypocrit who likes to throw hissy fits & get other ppl as crazy, as irrationally wrathful, as he is. His version of the 6 degree game is by far the farthest out there I've ever seen. His conclusions have no basis on even the "facts" that he produces. He's a nut job &, as far as I can see, he isn't really even entertaining, though I'll admit that there are "thousands" of ppl who would disagree with me...

:wink:

From Wiki - "Beck believes that there is a lack of evidence that human activity is the main cause of global warming.[34] He also says there’s a legitimate case that global warming has, at least in part, been caused by mankind, and has tried to do his part by buying a home with a "green" design.[35] He also views the American Clean Energy and Security Act as a form of wealth redistribution, and has promoted a petition rejecting the Kyoto Protocol.[36]"

Imho, if you follow this nut, if you believe in this nut, if you like this nut, if you think this nut has ANYTHING positive to offer this country, you are a nut.

And as far as the Tea Party is concerned, from the little I know of it, it seems to be a rather jumbled up bunch of disenfranchised Americans who get together to bitch about their woes. It seems very far from any type of cohesive political power. Too many varying degrees of anger & frustration over too many issues, some of which seem very "Beckishly bizarre." I don't see any real need on the part of the media to "downplay its significance," cuz as it stands, it looks about as potentially impactful as your average hippie commune.

#122337 by Starfish Scott
Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:51 pm
GlenJ wrote:This is MY government and the hard working God loving people of our country are getting fed up with having so much STOLEN from them. You should be too.

Scott just head butts some one, if they break the rules and kick him in the privates.
He is such a gentleman.

I'm not.


I also tend to want to kick people when they are on the canvas.
(that's also not allowed)

Glen, do you have to fixate on me and what I say?

Go bite someone else's ankle, mmmkkk? thanx..

I have enough on my plate with trying to fix my laptop for a little thing going on in less than 24 hours and I get to read what you write as well?

Believe me, I am on the bottom of the pile looking up and the only time I get to do any damage is when I stand a better than equal chance of having my face rearranged.

And now I hear the buzzing of little fly. Shoo, fly and be free..

Native Instruments if you don't help me enough to do my thing, I will cheerfully burn your cd and smash your little rig kontrol into unrecognizable pieces.

And now back to our regular programming..

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