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#119225 by philbymon
Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:20 pm
The biggest problem I've had with the addict is that it causes so many OTHER problems...being on time, being fit to work, having your equipment together, drama drama drama, personality issues, lying, stealing, etc...all while being totally able to justify anything & everything, or excuse it away.

#119230 by gbheil
Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:28 pm
I was a junkie / alcoholic.
I beat the odds.
Damn few people can.
Don't claim to be different, special, or better.
None the less DAMN FEW people have the will.

I'd go with the guy with the solid skills. Train him up in your music and he can own it.

The doper had his shot...

#119237 by gtZip
Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:45 pm
Go with the guy that has the best chemistry with the band.

#119334 by Starfish Scott
Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:58 pm
Jim,

Can you take the old drummer on a probationary basis?

If it was me, I'd allow him back in on the idea he was probate.
(anything goes on and he's out on his ass)

In the meantime, take your 2nd choice and rehearse the sh*t out of him.

I.e> if the older, better, substance drummer goes bonkers, get rid of him and seamlessly move new drummer into the mix.

I'd even have both of them at the rehearsals and tell the first guy he is on notice. They won't get along, but I bet the drumming will be better than usual and hey, that could be just what THE FARLEYS NEED.

#119335 by Tronix
Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:03 pm
Capt. Scott wrote:
I'd even have both of them at the rehearsals and tell the first guy he is on notice. They won't get along, but I bet the drumming will be better than usual and hey, that could be just what THE FARLEYS NEED.


you're asking too much with this one, it'd be awkward for both the new and the old guy and me personally, I'm walking out saying "don't put me in the middle of this." if I'm the new guy...make your decision, base it on what you think is right, and go with it. Dont look back, if the new guy needs time, give it to him, if you keep the addict, you're justv repeating the cycle that lead you where you are now. Go with the new guy and be done with it. Remain friends with the addict and support him entirely, help him if you can, but dont allow him back in the band. IMPO anyway.

#119337 by Starfish Scott
Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:07 pm
bah had 2 drummers at one time..

Not a big deal. If you wanna play and you want to get paid, you will go along with the program.

And if the old drummer bitches, he can be reminded of why things are the way they are.

The new guy knows none of the material, he is there to rehearse (note: not the same as practice). How can he be of use not knowing any of the material>?

#119372 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:45 pm
I believe every position should have a back-up.
Players on The Farleys can be back-ups for other bands too.
We all need help sometimes.
It's called being a union of musicians without the beurocracy.

#119384 by gbheil
Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:36 pm
Back up for equipment is one thing. A back up for each member of the Band :shock:

Hell I was lucky, blessed, and worked for months just to get the guys we have.


That ain't going to happen.
A great concept ... kinda like world peace.

#119418 by KLUGMO
Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:02 pm
I know sans, but bands in big cities have access to a lot of other players and for them it's a reality to find a back-up.
How handy being able to never cancel a gig because one person has
an emergency.

#119510 by gbheil
Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:17 pm
No doubt that would be cool. A logistic nightmare. But cool.

#119511 by fisherman bob
Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:21 pm
Nothing good long term ever comes from playing with an addict or alcoholic. I'd suggest going with somebody sober, stone cold sober.

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