General Music Chat

If I have to use frikken hand signals to order a drink. or pick up a lady, it isn't music. It's noise.

You got me wondering.

Just exactly what kind of hand signals does one need to pick up a lady ??

Point to them
Then point to yourself
Then point to your crotch


Good sounding instruments and a great p.a. With a good mix, and you can get pretty loud and not have it seem as loud as it really is.

You should be able to feel the punch of the band.
If you have to speak loudly, then so be it.

If I have to use frikken hand signals to order a drink. or pick up a lady, it isn't music. It's noise.

You got me wondering.

Just exactly what kind of hand signals does one need to pick up a lady ??

If I hafta tell you, you need to be more creative...LOL...believe me - I've done it.

Black 57 said ". . . the speakers were so loud that I believe I suffered some damage. That is not a good thing.
Music should be loud enough to keep the audiences attention without being deafening.
Music shoud be loud yet soft enough to allow the audience to talk amongst their friends, hear the words to songs, identify the instruments being played. . . ."
.
That's pretty much it, eh?
.
And - someone said, "If you think it's too loud then you're too old." Well, that's a nifty- sounding saying - but it's BS.

If you're experienced enough to realize that a certain volume causes a ringing in the ears for several days - well that's just it, isn't it?

Like I said in another thread - it is not cool to blind someone. Why, then, do some people think it's cool to deafen people?
I, for one, am not impressed by loud sounds.
What impresses me is GOOD sounds.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, volume has nothing to do with power. Your music has the most power when you get the audience to react in the emotional way you want them to react. Any other reaction means that your music has no power.

It's not cool to blind someone?
Dang it.

I don't think mace, running with scissors, or playing with coat hangers counts.

I was saying the "if it's too loud" comment in jest..but to be honest it's not our amps that deafen the people, its the sound guys who turn the bar PA to 11, is the one deafening people...I do wear earplugs when I rehearse too, but thats because we are in a small enclosed room, and it is a bit much to be honest.

I want it nice and loud, not overbearing.

I was saying the "if it's too loud" comment in jest..but to be honest it's not our amps that deafen the people, its the sound guys who turn the bar PA to 11, is the one deafening people...I do wear earplugs when I rehearse too, but thats because we are in a small enclosed room, and it is a bit much to be honest.

I want it nice and loud, not overbearing.

Tronix, we knew you were joking...we just don't like being called old, son. Earplugs are a very good idea. I was in a jazz workshop that discussed using earplugs. If you are performing on a regular basis...lucky you... but you need to protect your ears. You're going to need them.

IMHO! Volume becomes noise when the p.a. does not have enough power amps (watts) to run the speakers properly and they are cranked up. Inadequate power leads to distortion in the p.a.
Some of the clubs we are playing want it LOUD so we hire a sound guy with an adequate p.a. I don't agree with the way he mixes the band but he gets the bottom end to thumping and thats what these particular venues want.

Rock music is meant to be heard loud but with ample power; nothing is worse than a clipped amp or speakers that can't handle the load. The band is responsible for setting the intial volume level but an adequate PA and decent soundman are critical for preventing noise. Of course some bands would sound like noise regardless of other circumstances; they just suck.

I was saying the "if it's too loud" comment in jest..but to be honest it's not our amps that deafen the people, its the sound guys who turn the bar PA to 11, is the one deafening people...I do wear earplugs when I rehearse too, but thats because we are in a small enclosed room, and it is a bit much to be honest.

I want it nice and loud, not overbearing.

Tronix, we knew you were joking...we just don't like being called old, son. Earplugs are a very good idea. I was in a jazz workshop that discussed using earplugs. If you are performing on a regular basis...lucky you... but you need to protect your ears. You're going to need them.

whatchu talkin bout willis? You dont look a day over 22. to be specific I called Bob old. And Bob is most definately "old"
j/k Bob.

I was saying the "if it's too loud" comment in jest..but to be honest it's not our amps that deafen the people, its the sound guys who turn the bar PA to 11, is the one deafening people...I do wear earplugs when I rehearse too, but thats because we are in a small enclosed room, and it is a bit much to be honest.

I want it nice and loud, not overbearing.

Tronix, we knew you were joking...we just don't like being called old, son. Earplugs are a very good idea. I was in a jazz workshop that discussed using earplugs. If you are performing on a regular basis...lucky you... but you need to protect your ears. You're going to need them.

whatchu talkin bout willis? You dont look a day over 22. to be specific I called Bob old. And Bob is most definately "old"
j/k Bob.

I love you Tronix...

I think it realy is an age thing.

When I was in my teens and early twenties I was known as one ofthe loudest gutarist in my area. I actually still have the amp I used in those days and occasionally get it out and play on it (OUTSIDE), it is and was loud.

I think over time we become more particular about sound.

My band Aint Yo Mama was always a loud band, but about 3 yrs ago we made a conscious effort to keep the sound in the 100-105 db range, even used a meter for that purpose. We sound better, cleaner, hear the monitors better, insturments have much better clarity, have better dynamics.

I think it realy is an age thing.

When I was in my teens and early twenties I was known as one ofthe loudest gutarist in my area. I actually still have the amp I used in those days and occasionally get it out and play on it (OUTSIDE), it is and was loud.

I think over time we become more particular about sound.

My band Aint Yo Mama was always a loud band, but about 3 yrs ago we made a conscious effort to keep the sound in the 100-105 db range, even used a meter for that purpose. We sound better, cleaner, hear the monitors better, insturments have much better clarity, have better dynamics.

that sounds great. I wish the sound guy at our regular haunt would learn that. They have dual 800w power amps for the stage PA, and one of our shows one went down, so he dropped the instruments, we used our amps on stage, and the vox used the remaining 800w, and it was one of our cleanest sounding shows from a sonic stand point.

But I also agree that you should "feel" metal and you cant do that without moving air, and that requires volume.

it's a fine line.